“This is a GREAT time to move your COMPANY into the United States of America, like Apple, and so many others, in record numbers, are doing,” Trump posted on his Truth Social platform, promising “ZERO TARIFFS and “no environmental delays.”
Sure, just let me pick up a whole production plant and import a few thousand workers already trained on my processes. Should be able to get that done by this weekend.
Also all the material I need I need to build that production plant is under a 104% tariff. NBD.
And if everyone is moving to the USA at the same time, the existing supply lines get overburdened immediately, causing prices of all raw materials to explode until new supply can be developed.
But at least we can be 100% certain those tariffs will still be in place in a few years when the factories are finished.
Not to mention those trained people mentioned above attempting to move here have to fight deportation for checks notes, coming here on a work visa, having a tattoo, speaking your mind, not being white. Hard to say really.
And ICE will pick up those immigrants by Monday, never to be seen again.
Just build all the factories in El Salvador, then when they have to ship all the Americans back they can each bring a car or something with them to avoid the tariffs.
It is just Trump theatrics. He is actually trying to collect taxes from Americans through tariffs. It will takes years before the factories start operations.
It would* take years. The factories aren’t going to start operations at all.
Pretty much. Nobody believes the tariffs will outlive Trump, and he’s very old. Why drop a huge capital expense to solve a problem that will go away?
a problem that will go away
oh, god - I now have anticipatory… stirrings. thanks, obama.
Unless USA does become a hereditary monarchy and the whole circus continues with Queen Ivanka.
Trump wants her to be his queen
It won’t be built either
True, it was just a trick, (act) to collect more taxes from Americans. No wonder they put a TV show host to be a president.
I think he actually believes this will move manufacturing to the US. He is a moron afterall.
I already changed my tax withholdings. Not giving anything to the federal government. Only state.
This is the most effective form of protest, that every single American should be doing.
It also happens to be extremely efficient where it needs to be.
By the weekend? You need more than 24 hours for such a simple and straightforward task? Come on bruh? /s
Gotta be “hardcore”!
Hope he doesn’t change his mind and/or get overruled by then. Stable and predictable global markets are sooooo boring.
Edit: oh… it took 5 hours since I originally commented.
And build a new facility and create new supply routes. So much simpler!
Actually you had 3 hours to do it before he changed his mind.
He’ll change it again later today.
How long does this fuck think it takes to build a pharmaceutical or electronics plant? How you gonna source the materials dumass? Who do you think makes the equipment? You’re asking people to set up manufacturing and support infrastructure overnight, all the logistical integration…This man has a small child’s grasp on all of this shit.
You just aren’t ambitious and distruptive enough, below you can view my excellence plan.
Do it under tent light. Get a roller, flatten everything real nice. Setup a tent city near a stream so you can pump water in and industrial waste material out. Do it in a red state that will allow cheap child labor. Then hire any desperate people you can find for 50 cents over what the market rate is for unskilled labor to do the complicated stuff. When you make stuff, you shouldn’t care if the products are up to specifications or not, that could cost a lot of money to do perfectly. Only accept cash in advance. If some whiny customer tries to sue you, make sure to draw it out until all your current contracts are done. Then just dissolve the “company” pick a new name out of the hat and operate again tomorrow. Have sales people selling in advance under the next companies name. When buying any supplies that won’t be regularly needed, always fail to pay them, then tie them up in stupid contract disputes until you Phoenix yourself into a new company.
Normalize fly by night operations, just not when Chinese nationals do it
See his quote about no environmental delays, we don’t just have that stuff made over there because it’s cheaper. We also do it because of the environmental fallout from having such plants.
Also no way will we get Americans to do these jobs. Hell Apple plants hsve to have nets to keep employees from killing themselves. Also don’t they have to live at the plant?
Isn’t this why Americans are sent to prison? So they can provide free labour?
Hey look, environmental and labor rights issues aside, and not discounting that, if we want to make the United States a manufacturing powerhouse again I’m all for it but it requires actual central planning and investment ala Bernie Sanders, and it’s gonna take ten years.
Central planning is terrible… Bernie isn’t about that, he’s dialed in on next steps
Decentralized planning is better - don’t control from on high, support it being done as local as possible. Cast a wide net, Foster competition while forcing them to share their answers
They can’t. The ability to get an equipment loan is dead. It will take years to build factories. Longer than the presidential term. When you move fast you break things. In this case they broke the global economy.
There is still a chance they only broke the American part, might turn out that the global economy doesn’t need it. Fingers crossed.
It’s all connected. Can’t just break the American part. The American part is the financing of the non-Amarican parts.
America has the largest and richest consumer base. We are one of the few major economies to have a large population of millennials and gen z.
Who will Japan, Germany and China sell their shit to? There isn’t a market that can replace the US. The US also simply can’t make everything we like to consume. Which is why we are now headed for recession/stagflation.
Isn’t it cheaper to stop doing business with us than to alienate the rest of the world? I mean, it sucks to be in the middle of this, but I have zero confidence that I’m going to survive the next 3 years.
Yes. Trump doesn’t understand that that’s an option.
Personally, I have also already come to terms with my death. Honestly, it is quite liberating in a way. I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
The stupidest part is that of fucking COURSE there are zero tariffs if you move to the US, because tariffs are BY DEFINITION placed on imports. There’s no limit to the fuckery he can apply to you domestically, it’s just guaranteed not to be called “tariffs”.
That’s all his base needs, a different name. They won’t question it further than that.
Oh is that how it works? You just had to tell them? Stfu.
Please! Do it quick before our economy collapses!
Is this man functioning at full capacity? It took over a year to build a chain grocery store in a nearby town and that’s mostly stuff on shelves, not a production line set-up. Time was spent up front as well, in planning and logistics, that I wasn’t able to see, such that the total time to build a chain grocery store took well over a year, maybe two or even three.
Meanwhile, Trump expects “now” for manufacturing.
Never mind the fact that Americans won’t be able to buy products of that manufacturing due to high costs. What was the estimate, that iPhones manufactured here would cost $2k+? Something like that.
$2300, and that assumes that they can even get the materials.
China has silently stopped shipping a lot of metals used in high tech applications that it controls 90% of the stock of. The 10%? Our previous trade partners Canada and Australia, who aren’t big fans right now.
Not so silently, if you pay attention. There were brief headlines on the No selling to our defense contractors some time ago.
I’m in Trump time dilation so it’s hard to guesstimate when I read that one.
Unfortunately, for him this is full capacity, yes.
Why would someone move a company to a country that is hell-bound to bankrupt itself?
Well it’s not like putting your money in the stock market is a good idea either.
Come to American so we can deport you to a concentration camp.
It’s ok, our soldiers are like the Nazis, they will treat you with love. /s
Not like it takes a week to move your production to America.
Apple is going to become a US company? This is yuuge!
It just needs to find a suit and show proper gratification first. No more DEI turtle necks.
I have this feeling companies will just hunker down and wait it out until the next guy comes into office. While everyone suffer.
Fucking delulu.
