• ssillyssadass
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        Lol, lmao even. There is, and will be, no “national militia.” What’s going to happen is that the American people will sit in their couches, maybe cry, and say “why is this happening to us, somebody save us.” Anything that doesn’t take effort.

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          We are quite factually already NOT doing that. Get involved with a movement before you post doomer shit like this. Remember, every war we ever lost has been against fighters that blend in with the population. Its why we lost Vietnam, why we lost in Bush’s little scandal, and why they’ll lose when Trump tries to do this. Our biggest hurdle isnt getting people off their asses.

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            “yeah this thread is discussing how the American people are actively burning teslas and dealerships and all that but ameriturds totally won’t do anything”

            I’m watching news every day about how the Turd Reich is cracking down on anything that opposes them, but yeah the people totally aren’t doing a thing.

      • @alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        I remember the Russian military recruitment offices burning these past years, and their railroads getting sabotaged.

        The western press proudly stated “this is what happens when you don’t allow people to protest, they turn to sabotage”.

        But I guess this administration missed the memo.

  • @Wilco@lemm.ee
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    Yes, but if Trump refuses to leave office then he will need some serious guards. My understanding of the Constitution is that he becomes a domestic threat at that point and “fighting him” is technically legal … and required by anyone that took an oath to defend the Constitution.

    • Omega
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      Technically he’s barred from office per the 14th amendment.

      Technically is great until it’s ignored.

      • @Coyote_sly@lemmy.world
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        “I’m sure THIS will be the time he faces consequences for blatantly regarding both law and custom! Institutional inertia will protect us now for sure!” say a bunch of ignorant shitlibs for the 1,293,762nd time.

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        The people who wrote the 14th amendmend fucked up. They did not specify how the disqualification clause is supposed to be invoked.

        I mean, how are we suppose to invoke that?

        States? If so, red states could just ban democrats by abusing the disqualification clause.

        Conviction in courts? Well, trump never got convicted for treason/sedition. States convictionss of fraud isn’t disqualifying.

        Simple Majority in congress? Well, again, a unified congress can just use it to disqualify the other party.

        Supermajority? Well, that would never happen.

        Supreme court? Well… look at the composition of the court

        So… yea… somebody fucked up.

        Blame the authors of the 14th amendment.

        • Omega
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          Ideally the courts would rule on it and it would be up to congress with a supermajority to reverse it.

          To be clear, a court did rule that he committed treason and was barred from running. SCOTUS did not say they were wrong, they only stated that they (the fucking courts) did not have the power to APPLY THE CONSTITUTION.

          So yeah. It would be up to the courts to apply the constitution and SCOTUS would have the final word. I’m not sure why it would be any different from any other ammendment.

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            As dispicable as the court is, I agree with their decision.

            If a Colorado court can decide to remove a candidate, then all the republicans need to do is get a majority in the courts of swing states and they would forever have the presidency.

            Ideally, it should be completely overhauled SCOTUS with something like 15 seats, and every year, a seat expires, on staggered terms, with each justice serving 15 years.

            Since a president can only serve a maximum of 8 years*, they could at most have 8 of 15 justices. Something as serious as disqualifying a candidate for federal office should require 2/3 of the SCOTUS’s total membership, so at least 10 of the 15 seats on SCOTUS.

            A president serving 4 years could at best fill 4 of 15 seats, so even a corrupt president still leaves 11/15 uncorrupted judges.

            Also congress has to approve the judges (ideally both houses, by simple majority)

            And for intra-term vacancies, they should be filled by 2/3 supermajority, but if bipartisanship is impossible, they’ll just have to wait out the seat to expire.

            Maybe I should design the political system. 🤔 I’ve been doing a lot of worldbuilding stuff for a novel I want to write.

            • Omega
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              If a Colorado court can decide to remove a candidate, then all the republicans need to do is get a majority in the courts of swing states and they would forever have the presidency.

              It should be up SCOTUS to validate or invalidate Colorado’s findings. It would never be Colorado as the final word. That’s how the courts already work. Lower courts rule and higher courts can take further action if needed.

              I’m all for SCOTUS reform though.

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              ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed for senate! Hmm, I think we’re gonna need you a new name, bud.

        • mapumbaa
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          It is impossible to write an eternal constitution. Believing that is the biggest flaw of the American mindset.

        • @RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com
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          I’m pretty sure the Founders were under the impression that we’d rewrite the Constitution periodically when we discovered loopholes or other new problems they didn’t foresee.

    • @loopedcandle@lemmynsfw.com
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      I first took that oath 20 years ago. If orange idiot refuses to leave, I will be exercising my constitutional legal actions.

    • @dryfter@lemm.ee
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      He’s already a domestic threat, he doesn’t care about the Constitution or laws

    • mapumbaa
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      The constitution means whatever the guy with the biggest guns says it means.

    • Phoenixz
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      Don’t all Americans take that oath every day in school?

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      Hitler survived 30+ attempts, just sayin’… 🤷‍♂️

      People who run this simulation really be giving the villains plot armor 😭

    • @krashmo@lemmy.world
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      So do I, but this problem is much bigger than one man. He could not do what he’s doing without support from many rich donors and his party (which in turn relies on the support of the 30% of the country that reliably votes for them). Trump and many of his voters may be idiots but most of those other people are not, at least not in the intellectual sense of the word. They are making a calculated choice to enable fascism because they think it’s better for them personally than democracy. That belief and it’s associated threat to our country isn’t going away when Trump dies. In fact, it might get much worse if they can find someone who can advance that agenda without being a bumbling fool most of the time.

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        Thankfully the French created a device that is perfect for solving such issues, we just require the societal will to do so.

    • @CallateCoyote@lemmy.world
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      I’m told we really shouldn’t wish death on anybody… so I really wish he had gotten a bullet in his brain and been a vegetable hooked up to life support machines for many, many years.

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        I don’t support the death penalty because those individuals are no threat to society, many of them are innocent, and the government shouldn’t have that kind of power when it’s unnecessary.

        None of that applies. Also, I don’t wish him dead. I just want him gone. The method of his removal is just a secondary concern.

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          I want him utterly embarrassed with no chance of being martyred, booted out in shame and even the most fanatic republican would turn him down a crust of bread. But for now a accept beer and whiskey/whisky.

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            This! If Trump leaves office in anything but shame and universal disapprobation, a new Trump with a different name but the same tactics will emerge. Americans need to learn the lesson for this madness to end.

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              I wanna see them end up broke and in some crackhouse living pathetically with a team of SS agents standing guard just to make sure they don’t become martyrs (or defect to russia), and people just walk by their shitty houses and yells curse words at them, the entire social media shit on them for fucking up the economy, and they just live out their old miserable life in shame with 90% of the country hating them.

              That’s the only way to end maga, forever.

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            Lol, evil people are famous for being able to work together 🤣

            We can throw them on an island that’s perfectly habitable, and they’d starve themselves because they never worked a day in their life.

            I won’t shred a tear, its a natural causes… 🤷‍♂️

      • @oyo@lemm.ee
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        He still would have been elected in that case, and all the project 2025 executive orders would be identical.

  • Yesterday, former President Donald Trump told a group of supporters that they won’t have to vote again if they elect him to the presidency. “You won’t have to do it anymore,” Trump said at the Turning Point Believers’ Summit in Florida. “It’ll be fixed; it’ll be fine; you won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians.” - The Atlantic, July '24

    ‘When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.’ - Maya Angelou

  • @SirMaple__@lemmy.ca
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    Canuck here. When is the Civil War kicking off? I’m sure they’ll be a fair number of Canadians who will come and help remove him from office. We’ll for sure send some of our highly trained Canadian Geese to assist lol

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      When is the Civil War kicking off?

      The people who care the most about saving this country have the most to lose, while those who lick the boots of the fascists are too mentally and physically infirm to fight.

      So yeah, the answer is never. Sorry.

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        Especially when one of the boot lickers is the ranking member of party that should be making the most noise right now. Instead they support the Cheeto with more budget to keep working on ripping the country apart as well as pushing it’s closest allies away.

    • @moncharleskey@lemmy.zip
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      When the Civil War happened there was a somewhat clear division between northern and southern states due to slavery, but now that division is between neighborhoods and houses, amongst families and coworkers. Add that into life in a surveillance state and it’s going to be hard for a civil war to gain traction I think. But I’m sure any day now those 2A nuts are going to go up against the tyrannical government they have been prepping for, right?!

    • @JayleneSlide@lemmy.world
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      our highly trained Canadian Geese

      This explains so damned much of their behavior. I for one look forward to these operatives helping us out with our myriad domestic issues.

    • @Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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      The party who should be starting the civil war has spent the last two generations screeching about how evil it is to arm yourself.

  • @PurpleSkull@lemm.ee
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    Trump already looks 20 years older 2 months into his second presidency. Look at pictures of him yesterday. How on earth would he even run for a third term, physically I mean? He will be the oldest president EVER by the time his term ends. 2 Years older than Biden when he left. A third term would serve no one but the actual rulers Peter Thiel and Musk behind him…oh.

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      Trump is just a sock puppet for the corporations and ideological doom players behind him. He has no idea what’s going on most of the time.

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        “President died of excessive flatulence! Vice president JD Vance vows tough retaliation against Big Farta (and Iran for some reason)” would be the correct headline for this clown world timeline.

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      I think you’re onto something… Thiel and the billionaires who bankrolled JD Vance knew exactly what they were doing when they made a deal with Trump for the VP seat.

      tinfoil hat time: they will keep Trump for as long as he serves them, then it’s 25th amendment time, and then theyll have their boy JD in power. even if it’s only the remaining term, it’ll be long enough to get the pieces into play for their ancap fantasies of a balkanized USA, with different CEOs over regional corporate fiefdoms.

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        No tinfoil needed, but keep it because you’re right and the government might microwave you to death now.

        Do you remember how and why JD Vance was picked as Trumps running mate? Despite you know…everything Vance said about Trump before then? Donald barely even knew him. But his son did. Via Thiel. They will 100% get rid of Trump if he ever steps out of line, and he knows it.

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        Trump will be 25th on January 20th 2027, if the Cheeseburger or a Luigi doesn’t get to him first.

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    Just remember, if his new administration has proven anything, it is that the difference between legal and illegal in the American political system is mostly down to everyone being willing to go along with that law. There is very little actual teeth behind a lot of it at the high up federal level.

    So it might be unconstitutional for him to run again, but who is actually going stop him? He has more guns and more sycophants than the court system.

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    Conservative don’t like bypassing term limit. Conservative subreddit are already not happy. So yep it’s matter of time some maga nut bag will revolt against him.

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          It’s an article about Trump being a turd. Do we have to get mad about something a Democrat might do, but hasn’t done?

          • NoneOfUrBusiness
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            No, but don’t try to paint people’s legitimate frustration with the party as both sides rhetoric.

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            You’re right, out of either party it’s definitely the Democrats that should be known for not doing anything.

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              Clever rhetoric, but that was a reference to the comment assuming Schumer would say something he almost certainly won’t say.

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                He said something very close to it just recently in regards to shutting down criticism of any kind towards Israel, so I don’t think it’s unfair to say it’s something he thinks, even if he’s probably too smart to use those exact words.

                EDIT: To be clear, I’m not talking about the being president three times, I’m specifically talking about the denying American people a choice, although in this thread the two are intertwined.

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      “Maybe someday they’ll let a Democrat be president for three terms!”

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    If Trump was elected in the 80s, he wouldn’t be alive long enough to change the name plate of the oval office desk. We’re living through such a wild time in history.

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    Why? Because no matter how much the unhinged right, many “centrists”, and some of the leftists and a lot of the corporate media mocked those among the Democrats that said democracy is at risk…it is.

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    I don’t see him surviving this term. He is too old, his mind and body is going. He could be living his best life but instead is destroying everyone eleses.

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    The comments seem to be missing the fact that elections are state run, so if he is allowed to run a third time, it won’t be him that broke the law it will be the states and their reps.