Summary

A father whose unvaccinated six-year-old daughter became the first U.S. measles death in 10 years remains steadfast in his anti-vaccine beliefs.

The Mennonite man from Seminole, Texas told The Atlantic, “The vaccination has stuff we don’t trust,” maintaining that measles is normal despite its near-eradication through vaccination.

His stance echoes claims by HHS Secretary Robert Kennedy Jr., who initially downplayed the current North American outbreak before changing his position under scrutiny.

Despite his daughter’s death, the father stated, “Everybody has to die.”

  • @mkhopper@lemmy.world
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    261 month ago

    Made even more sad given that, as a child, he likely received the MMR vaccine.

    These fools never seem to think about that part.

    • BigFig
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      121 month ago

      Maybe, depends if he was born and raised Mennonite then it’s possible he didn’t. But that also means he likely did nothing to comfort his daughter as she died or else he would have caught it too

      • It’s also possible he was very lucky and had a mild case of measles as a child. That’s often a reason people don’t take a dangerous disease seriously, especially when you add the religious factor. He’s an idiot who killed his child but we don’t know he didn’t care about her or try to comfort her.

  • @MehBlah@lemmy.world
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    531 month ago

    You can only hope one day the asshole realizes he killed his kid and can’t live with his failure.

  • @CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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    451 month ago

    The conundrum here is that admitting his stance was wind would take a level of intelligence that would have had him vaccinate his child in the first place.

    I know that’s oversimplifying it, but the point still stands.

    • @Bread@sh.itjust.works
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      201 month ago

      At this point, I can’t say I would blame him for still refusing to accept it on an emotional level despite all evidence otherwise. As stupid as it is, how might you cope with knowing you are the sole reason that your daughter is dead? That if it weren’t for your arrogance, you would still have a child?

      I don’t agree with it, but I understand. I don’t think I could live with myself if I accepted reality if I were in his situation. Shutting down might be his method of coping. It is a sad situation that was easily preventable.

      • @cool@lemmings.world
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        This is why it’s easier to fool someone than to convince them they’d been fooled.

        They don’t want to admit they were wrong and taken for a ride. It’s embarrassing, it’s humiliating. They would rather carry their misconceptions to the grave than admit they are incorrect.

        It’s a vicious cycle that at least 30% of Americans are going through.

  • @wwb4itcgas@lemm.ee
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    131 month ago

    I suppose doubling down on being an utter useless fool is still easier on the ego than owning up to having negligently murdered your own daughter.

    So he’s a coward too. Lovely.

  • @Subtracty@lemmy.world
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    291 month ago

    “Stuff in it that we don’t trust.”

    Better to be dead than injected with chemicals that might make you autistic? Gay? A liberal? What could possibly be in the vaccines that would be worse than your child no longer existing?

    As a parent, I am so angry. How can you look at your child and be more afraid of the lesser outcomes (not that they even exist, but still) and choose death? What a failure of the parents. And shame on every single person in the media that let this bullshit spiral out of control. That poor girl.

    • @vithigar@lemmy.ca
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      241 month ago

      What could possibly be in the vaccines that would be worse than your child no longer existing?

      The article says the man is a Mennonite, which means he probably believes in an afterlife. In his mind his child still exists and he’ll get to see her again when he passes and spends eternity there.

      I pretty firmly believe that afterlife beliefs account for a pretty significant distortion of values in people and helps explain a large number of frankly insane behaviours. Preventing deaths becomes much less important when there’s an eternal paradise waiting for you and the “real” risk is doing something that bars you from going there.

  • Lør
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    271 month ago

    He does not deserve to have kids.

  • brezel
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    321 month ago

    Obviously his god didn’t want him to procreate.

    • @ZeffSyde@lemmy.world
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      41 month ago

      He must have been a sinner, in that case. Mennonites tend to have enough children to tend to a farm, then they have enough children to attend to those children.

      It’s not so bad if one is taken by disease, you just make another one and hope it’s less weak.

      Women love bearing children, so it is they who are blessed in the end.

      /S

  • @gamer@lemm.ee
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    111 month ago

    Is this a case of total brainwash, or just a case of a parent who didn’t want his kid? Measles seems like a socially acceptable form of post-birth abortion today.

    • @RedAggroBest@lemmy.world
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      81 month ago

      He’s a Mennonite, pretty sure they’ve been opposed to what basically counts as modern medicine for a long time. The Old Order ones live similar to the Amish.

  • @evergreen@lemmy.world
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    1021 month ago

    So basically he’d rather they just die than live with “stuff we don’t trust”. If “everybody has to die”, then why care about what’s in a vaccine in the first place? Extreme cognitive dissonance to support an ideology.

    • I’m not entirely certain, but depending on which Mennonite community they belong to, they might believe that reaching their desired afterlife requires faithful adherence to their religious practices and commitments.

      • 52fighters
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        I think part of the problem is the MMR in the United States is associated with a medical abortion. Certain religious groups won’t take the MMR in account of that. There’s an ethical alternative but it is not commercially available in the US. It would be a good idea to make the alternative strain available here because it would help protect a segment of the population that’s otherwise exposed.

    • @aesthelete@lemmy.world
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      If “everybody has to die”, then why care about what’s in a vaccine in the first place?

      Yeah, couldn’t the vaccine side effects be “God’s will” as well?

  • Phoenixz
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    161 month ago

    Yeah, this fucker should be arrested, kids taken away and he should be housed in a care facility where he slowly can be weaned off the conspiracy theories until he’s normal again

    Yes, I’m advocating for forced treatments of these fuckers. Hell, I’d deport and quarantine them in a remote island where they can slowly die of diseases and what not, I don’t care.

    If in 2025 you still need to believe in dumb shit like unicorns, skydaddies, and conspiracy theories like a 5 year old then you don’t have the right to live liek any other healthy adult, you should be considered mentally deficient and treated as such. Sorry, you are not competent to raise children, these poor kids deserve better.

    Lock em um

    I’m sorry, but I’m not sorry. These people habe been ruining this world since forever and it has to stop. I’m out of are, I’m out of mercy, I’m out of patience

    • @cool@lemmings.world
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      51 month ago

      I see those few downvotes, but I agree with you.

      Unchecked stupidity is dangerous, and even deadly as we see evident right here.

      These people should not be allowed to make decisions for others.

    • @ZeffSyde@lemmy.world
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      Once Cheeto-Christ is allowed to rampage his way down his list of enemies, I’m sure the Amish and Mennonites are hovering just after ‘gypsies’ (Romani) in the Purge Order.

    • @starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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      Downvotes from people who don’t like this authoritarian stance.

      Fuck em, this is one authoritarian stance I share. If your kid dies because you made the active decision to feed them nothing but fruit, you get arrested. If your kid dies because you made the active decision to leave them in a hot car, you get arrested. If your kid dies because you made the active decision to not get them vaccines, you should be arrested.

  • @bus_factor@lemmy.world
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    181 month ago

    Of course he does. He’s desperate to justify his actions, because the alternative is to admit to himself that his choices killed his daughter.