• @Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee
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      31 month ago

      Never fail to underestimate how much failures cause people to become more dug in than realize something is off.

      I remember in the early 2000s atheist sites would often pose questions about how believers could continue to believe when natural disasters and disease go rampant.

      The facts? Natural disasters, when they happen to believers, make them MORE entrenched in their beliefs and not less.

  • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    451 month ago

    I’m still optimistic the lifers at HHS who stood firm and didn’t resign are just slowly teaching Lil Bobby what a vaccine is:

    While RFK Jr. recently shifted his stance to concede that vaccinations are actually pretty useful, he has still stopped short of urging skeptics to go and get it. And in an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity that aired Tuesday night, he appeared to still favor natural immunity through exposure to the virus.

    "It used to be, when I were a kid, that everybody got measles. And the measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection,” he said, then taking a swipe at the vaccine. “The vaccine doesn’t do that. The vaccine is effective for some people for life, but for many people it wanes.”

    Like, he is damn close to understanding a measles vaccine is measles, just a hindered version that won’t be able to reproduce and cause harm. And real close to understanding the need for booster shots.

    He’s still not there, and it seems to be taking weeks for what can be covered in depth in 15 minutes.

    But eventually I hope they’ll win him over.

    • @leisesprecher@feddit.org
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      I’m really confused about his statement.

      I mean, let’s assume he’s right, and let’s assume that a vaccine only protects you for, say, 20 years. Just measles induced encephalitis alone has a lethality of 0.1%. How many cases of anything more than a mild fever did any vaccine ever cause? He’s not even claiming it’s causing autism or death or transformation into Space Godzilla. So why not just vaccinate? It’s stupid even in his own world.

    • @thesohoriots@lemmy.world
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      141 month ago

      This is how I feel RFK jr has always operated. He does/proposes/thinks progressive things right up until it really goes off the rails. Like, he argued there are medical biases against Black Americans (very much true and well researched), but then segued into the COVID-19 vaccines being medical experiments on minorities and tried to discourage vaccination that way. He usually starts with a good cause but inevitably drags it into conspiracy territory. Also someone is sanewashing his Wikipedia article because there’s a lot of his bullshit missing from a few months ago.

      • @givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        51 month ago

        That is not true.

        It’s not all sunshine and rainbows anywhere in the fed right now, but there’s always ways to fight and this is the biggest

  • Phoenixz
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    Let the entirety of the US have measles, and a good percentage will die, another good part will be scarred for life and have disabilities from it and the country will collapse

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    No RFK, things would be much better if YOU got measles

    With you gone, people could vaccinate again and then they wouldn’t get sick, you worm for brains

  • tiredofsametab
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    I wonder if widescale immunity reset could lead to a resurgence of something like polio which we’ve almost eradicated.

  • @takeda@lemm.ee
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    That’s exactly how a vaccine works you dummy it just uses an inert version of the virus that isn’t as dangerous.

    Looks like it is really hard for onion to make a parody: https://theonion.com/rfk-jr-vows-to-make-measles-deaths-so-common-they-wont-be-upsetting-anymore/

    Edit: and you know what’s crazy? He is advocating that everyone should get measles, because when he was young that was normal.

    His voice is caused by disease called spasmodic dysphonia, which is also linked to childhood measles or mumps:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spasmodic_dysphonia#Cause

  • IHeartBadCode
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    The only correct answer to RFK saying that is: “No it wouldn’t.”

    There is zero scientific evidence that supports his claim. Him saying this is about akin to someone saying that we should build only brick houses because the sky hates the color red which is why it is blue. It makes no sense and so does his argument. But that’s to be expected from someone who quite literally has zero formal training in medicine.

    • @Ledericas@lemm.ee
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      21 month ago

      hes the guy that has been seen dripping methlyene blue in his drink on a flight as a treatment for "diseases:

  • HubertManne
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    RFK Jr: “It used to be that everybody got measles. And the measles gave you lifetime protection against measles infection. The vaccine doesn’t do that … it used to be that very young kids were protected by breast milk. Women who get vaccinated do not provide that level of immunity.”

  • @dumpsterac1d@lemmy.world
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    “Dont trust the medical institutions until you’re sick” is just the self-harm logical extension version of the plague of right-wing myopia of broke self-reliance americanism and detriment individualism. American culture is completely unsalvageable