Summary
The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has begun administering polygraph tests to employees in an effort to identify individuals leaking information about immigration operations.
DHS Secretary Kristi Noem and border czar Tom Homan have blamed recent leaks for lower-than-expected ICE arrest numbers.
Noem stated that two leakers had been identified and would be prosecuted, though it’s unclear if polygraphs were used.
While DHS has used polygraphs before for hiring screenings, they are now being used to question employees about leaks of classified or sensitive law enforcement information.
Well, good thing polygraph tests are just voodoo bullshit.
Doesn’t matter. They are good enough to justify denial of clearance which means loss of job.
I have no faith that lawsuits will prevail here based on precedence supporting polygraphs as a credibility and suitability discriminator.
Thats actually banana republic shit.
You bet your ass it is!
This is just nuts.
Why don’t they use a ouija board?
Probably because it’s kinda hard to check if a ghost had the “correct” skin color and/or genitals…
You could honestly just ask the ghost via the oiuja board and it would be roughly as meaningful as a polygraph
That might have made more sense if polygraph testing actually performed better than a dice roll. The US Congress Office of Technology Assessment and the National Academy of Sciences could’ve told DHS that, but I guess they didn’t think to ask.
Or think in general.
“To find leakers” lol nope. This is being done to fire non loyalists to Trump.
Can we perform these test on all high levels of government? “Trump are you a Russian Asset?
Polygraph tests are so unreliable, they’re not even admissible in court.
Not exactly a rock solid case if someone who’s fired decides to sue - which I hope happens frequently.
It’s in their contract that the results of a polygraph are grounds for dismissal alone. They have no grounds to sue.
Ah. Thank you. I didn’t know that.
That’s a really shitty contract.
they’re “reliable enough” for their intended purpose here: fire people who aren’t “in line”.
They aren’t really though. It’s basically reading tea leaves.
Yeah, but the DHS is taking a massive risk each time they fire someone because of a polygraph. Without other evidence, they will have no legal defense if sued.
Do laws even matter anymore?
I’ve heard that if you take propranolol before the test it makes it easier to mislead the results.
Or say whatever you want since polygraphs are horse shit.
Could it perhaps be the Fox News camera crews they bring around with them?
Legend of Korra did it first
Your regular reminder that polygraphs are junk science that arent admissible in court.
You’d be just as successful finding the truth by hiring a phrenologist to study the bumps of peoples heads.
I had a co-worker who managed to score himself a pretty decent aerospace job. He was a damn good coder, college graduate, No debt no drug use whatsoever, nicest guy in the world. This one time a baby mouse got stuck in a recycling can by his desk. He gave it water put a little piece of Rice Krispie treat and with it so it had something to eat. The mouse took a bite of the rice krispie treat and kealed over dead. He sobbed about that for the whole day and was mopey for the rest of the week.
Anyway he passed all the practical exams with flying colors. They’ve gone through months of investigation, and he was fine. Finally came time for the polygraph. He went for the poly and found some time later that it was not good. They scheduled him back for another poly. Some number of days or weeks later it came back as “not good”.
I’m like dude, what’s happening when you’re going in there? Are they asking you complicated morality questions or something? Basically, it came down to about halfway through the test, he would just start freaking out that he wasn’t going to pass it and get nervous and upset. The second time he actually cried a little bit.
He never did get that job. But I can assure you that if he had he would have gone to his grave with any secrets that ever would have come out of there.
Snow Crash isn’t supposed to be a how-to.
Have they stopped to consider that they maybe are just super incompetent idiots? Who am I kidding, they lack the intelligence for introspection and are incapable of coming to rational conclusions.
Is the current US regime actually fascist, or is it just some kind of nausea-inducing Keystone Kops reality TV farce doomed to total failure & obscurity?
Fascism always is full of incompetent idiots, and yeah fascism is doomed to failure. The only question is how much damage the idiots can do before they fail.
Fascism is cannibalistic in nature. The rage eats its own until paranoia takes over.
Yes!
It can be both.
Well, let’s just say corporate wants you to identify what’s different…
Do we officially call them the US Gestapo yet or do we wait until they resort to torture on US soil?
bruh. us prisons employ multiple “pacification” techniques that draw from torture tricks. the intelligence community that’s willing to work with musk is absolutely a modern gestapo or okrana
Razzia’s ✅ Secret police ☑️ Torture interrogation 📋
If you’re going to rely on pseudo-scoentific bullshit, you might as well bring in some palm readers and voodoo priests instead. At least that’ll be entertaining.
EDIT - Just want to add this - Never, under any circumstances, should you take a polygraph test. If you are a suspect (legally or otherwise), they will not use the results to exonerate you. If they suspect you did it, but the polygraph doesn’t detect any deception, they will throw out the results as “unreadable” and pursue other means of investigating you. But if the results detect deception, they will treat it like the fucking Oracle at Delphi.
Seriously american obsession with this snake oil bullshit is staggering. It never worked in any reasonable extent and how could it?
The idea of detecting lying by measuring “heart rate and co” is plainly idiotic and anyone who’s part of this should be shamed into obscurity.
