The S&P 500 retreated on Monday, extending February’s rout and turning red for the year after President Donald Trump’s confirmation of forthcoming tariffs ratcheted up economic concerns.

The S&P 500 fell 2.1%, bringing its year-to-date performance to a loss of nearly 1%. The Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped 789 points, or 1.8%. The Nasdaq Composite slid 3%, weighed down by Nvidia’s decline of more than 9%.

All three indexes traded higher earlier in the session, with the Dow at one point up nearly 200 points. Stocks took a notable leg down in afternoon trading following Trump’s reiteration that 25% levies on imports from Mexico and Canada would go into effect on Tuesday, dashing investors’ hopes of a last-minute deal to avert the full tariffs on the two U.S. allies.

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  • @iowagneiss@midwest.social
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    272 months ago

    I’m not an economist, but is this where we

    1. Lower interest rates to “help the economy”

    2. Normal people still can’t afford things because we’re in a recession

    3. Normal people start losing their homes

    4. Rich people have cheap loans to buy said homes due to interest rate drops

    5. Rich people rent out new homes to normal people for more than they were paying in mortgage, after normal people rebound or figure out how to make it work with two families in the home

    6. America is…great?

    • Drusas
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      142 months ago

      Hello, fellow millennial (probably). Wasn’t it nice graduating college into that economy?

      • @iowagneiss@midwest.social
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        112 months ago

        Sure was. After Pell Grant and whatnot, I only needed most of my subsidized loan to live on campus at a private four year college.

        It feels weird to be old enough to watch us repeat that cycle but with more fascism this time. At least I learned to always live in fear and anxiety that everything could be lost in a moment, so now my emergency fund is decent.

        • Drusas
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          22 months ago

          On mbin, there’s an up arrow in the bottom right corner of the screen that you can’t move or get rid of (as far as I’m aware). It made it so that your statement seemed to be, “At least I learned to always live in fear and anxiety that everything could be lost in a moment, so now my emergency fund”

          And then it ends abruptly. How suiting.

  • @doctortofu@reddthat.com
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    152 months ago

    That’s okay - he can fix it with tariffs on stock trading, tariffs on recession and extra tariffs on poverty, right? Because tariffs are a panacea for everything!

    America, prepare to pay tariffs on your monumental stupidity - you thought it was bad now? Then hold on to your butts. The rest of the world will also suffer with you, but we won’t have it nearly as bad as you guys…

  • @Allonzee@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    He’s doing this on purpose so the oligarchs can buy the dip and own even more.

    Don’t mistake malice for incompetence, or vice versa. Trump is often incompetent, especially in live interactions, his tariff game ain’t it, it’s part of all he’s there for: self-enrichment.

    He already called them on and back off once this term to do just that. Calling such moves idiocy instead of a plan to further drain wealth from the many to the pre-informed few plays right into it.

    Yet another example of why the capital markets are the bane of human civilization in innumerable ways, undermining and sabotaging entire societies to accelerate short term growth/metastasis.

    The capital markets will be destroyed either by the people out of self preservation, or by capital market made climate change after it doesn’t matter anymore for humans. I take solace in knowing this con game won’t last another century either way, as the tumor of unchecked human greed will destroy its own host if not cut out by force.

    • @booly@sh.itjust.works
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      32 months ago

      Don’t mistake malice for incompetence, or vice versa.

      I’d also add not to mistake inadvertence for planned action, or vice versa.

      Let’s not forget, this was the administration that named the wrong official as acting FBI director and, rather than fixing their mistake, just went with it and let that guy run things for a few weeks.

      It could be that they want to tank the markets so that their people can buy things for cheap. But I also wouldn’t trust their competence or planning to do it in a way that the cheap thing recovers in value.

      People make the comparison to Crassus’s fire brigade, where he’d buy homes on the cheap that were already on fire, then use the brigade to put the fire out. But imagine someone who tries to do this with an incompetent fire brigade, where they buy houses on fire and then fail to contain the fires, so that they end up losing even more. That analogy might be more on point with this administration.

    • masterofn001
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      172 months ago

      Oh, it’s much worse than that.

      All that park land sold to the wealthy.

      USD becomes worthless.

      Network states - city states of the rich.

      Destroying the central banking system (not bad, but in this context will cause untold death and suffering)

      Privatized everything.

      Crypto.

      The complete dismantling of american hegemony (not a bad thing, necessarily, but to do it by placating Putin is not the way) and financial dominance.

      Complete and absolute surveillance. Always. In everything. (X app/starlink)

      Christian dominionism. Not just nationalism.

      The end of western society.

      It’s much worse than just markets.

      It’s Armageddon.

    • @Railcar8095@lemm.ee
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      To be frank, there’s very little that can be done to change the GDP in 3 months. Even if you’re Trump, you can’t screw that hard.

      Right…?

      • @LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz
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        12 months ago

        Trump has been threatening and posturing for 10 years. The second he was elected the economy started to react to everything he has said and done up to that point.

        He’s been indirectly impacting the economy for years, and directly impacting it since November.

    • @Pringles@lemm.ee
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      122 months ago

      Get used to it. The US isn’t just shooting itself in the foot, it’s creating a ball pit full of mines and jumping in head first.

  • @NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world
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    The dow losing 600 points is barely 1.5%. We had a swing in 2015 that was over a thousand, and the stock market was fine. This will be news when it tumbles like 20% and we start seeing large sell offs and bank runs.

    • breakfastmtnOP
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      172 months ago

      This is just initial reaction to an announcement. The tariffs aren’t even implemented yet.

        • @jacksilver@lemmy.world
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          Yeah, but tarrifs are one of dozens if not hundreds of things that are going to be hurting the economy.

          Youve already got tens of thousands of federal workers now unemployed, likely disruptions to Medicaid/snap/social security, tarrifs (and likely trade consequences of tarrifs), low consumer confidence, and it hasn’t even been two months.

          If anyone thinks this is going to be a good year for the markets, I’d love to know why. The only reason they might stay high is due to corporate benefits from the admin as the regular people suffer.

  • HubertManne
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    22 months ago

    oh the humanity. If you had put your money in january of this year you would only get the same amount back if you took it out!!!

  • @Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca
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    Get ready. Conservatives who have boasted the economy doing well when the stock market ever went up are going to start telling you how the stock market isn’t a metric for the true economy

    • @krashmo@lemmy.world
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      You’re not wrong but I don’t know why we bother pointing this stuff out anymore. If there’s anyone out there still expecting consistency from conservatives they aren’t paying attention at all, which means they’ll never see any post pointing out the inconsistency.

      • @ahal@lemmy.ca
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        There’s millions of young people who are just starting to pay attention. We continue to point out the hipocrasy for them. Lest their only point of reference come from the conservatives.

    • @Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
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      122 months ago

      Doesn’t matter. They immediately forgot the 2018 Trump slump, and the covid economic disaster he made worse. Republicans have been continuously proving how terrible they are for the economy for over half a century, and voters won’t take a hint

    • @turnip@sh.itjust.works
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      Once they learn all the money goes toward corporate tax cuts?

      Go ahead and sell, the only thing this hurts is the dollar as the reserve currency. Like social security we can run on its downfall.