While tens of thousands of people have joined Facebook groups in Sweden and Denmark calling for no longer buying American, Norwegian company Haltbakk Bunkers has announced that it will stop supplying US military vessels with fuel.
  • @Novice_Idiot@lemmy.wtfEnglish
    52•2 months ago

    Can we collectively decide not to respect American intellectual property laws to really hit the tech sector where it hurts? We don’t get that many physical goods over here but most of our software is American owned. I advocate for not paying American tech companies anymore.

    • @froh42@lemmy.worldEnglish
      29•2 months ago

      We need our own tech stack, that is at least verifyable. It’s due time to kick out the American tech giants from government projects etc.

      With America possibly becoming the new Russia it is just not safe to rely on Microsoft, Apple, Aws etc.

      We need an Europan open source stack.

        • FlufferyEnglish
          1•2 months ago

          I’m trying to make a google stack replacement, which can also extend to microsoft

          • @heavydust@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            0•2 months ago

            That’s worse. If someone was telling me about “google or microsoft stacks” without explaining what it is, I would laugh.

            Are you talking about OS, mobile OS, GUI, web, SaaS, APIs, services, subscriptions, servers, cloud, VMs, …? What the fuck is a stack? Stack is a term that has been stolen by web devs and means nothing anymore.

              • @heavydust@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                0•2 months ago

                You tell me. What is a Google stack? What is a Microsoft stack? The other guy was talking about a “tech stack” which practically means nothing.

                • FlufferyEnglish
                  0•2 months ago

                  Google’s stack is the services they provide, so google docs is an example, google drive, hangouts, gmail, that bunch

                  And the mirror from microsoft like m$ word, outlook, their cloud i forget the name of, minishit teams

                  That type of shit, what else would i be talking about? It was very clear from the beginning

    • @tty5@lemmy.worldEnglish
      32•2 months ago

      EU regulations that can be triggered in response to tariffs include an option to make that completely legal

      Edit because I’m getting asked for a source: EU Anti Coercion Instrument that got passed in 2021 and came into effect in December 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ:L_202302675

      Specifically Annex I, paragraph 7:

      ANNEX I

      Union response measures pursuant to Article 8

      […]

      1. The imposition of restrictions on the protection of intellectual property rights or their commercial exploitation, in relation to rightholders that are nationals of the third country concerned, which may amount, as necessary, to the non-performance of applicable international obligations with respect to trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights.

      This applies to copyright and patents, but not trademarks as far as I know.

    • @redlemace@lemmy.worldEnglish
      0•2 months ago

      If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump and his clowns clan. Go for the alternatives instead. Also, If you keep using the US software they still get all anvertisement and telemetry which is more valuable to them than the software itself anyway.

        • @redlemace@lemmy.worldEnglish
          0•2 months ago

          You’re entitled to that opinion, and feel free to suggest a change of law, but for now … it’s still the law. And obeying only the laws that suits your goals is very much Trump/MAGA style. Let’s not get down to their level.

  • @Placebonickname@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13•2 months ago

    I’m not saying I want this to happen, but it might just be more effective to have a foreign nation’s intelligence service wipe out Elon Musk . I mean, I don’t want him to die or anything, but if you could just do a Jimmy Hoffa and make sure that nobody ever finds his remains that would be just swell 

  • LanskeEnglish
    19•2 months ago

    I know that my country - The Netherlands imports a lot from the US, so i am trying not to. Ditched all my Meta accounts, closed Amazon account/prime and Kindle, moved away from Google to several other services, stopped several streaming services and when we buy products from the supermarket actively check wheter products are from the US, and replace them with local/EU/Canadian products.

      • a Kendrick fanEnglish
        8•2 months ago

        GrapheneOS, CalyxOs or LineageOs as an alternative to just using android.

        F-droid and Aurora store for almost all android apps, Obtainium if you can find your way around git forges.

        Tuta mail, Posteo and other alternatives for Gmail.

        Firefox and Thunderbird as replacement for Chrome and Gmail app

        Duckduckgo/Ecosia(uses Microsoft’s Bing), Kagi(good but paid), SearX(free but you can run into limits quickly), Marginalia(nonpaid websites only) :- all are replacements for Google search, also learn to use search bangs to quickly take advantages of different search engine

        i don’t use almost all of Google’s other products but a search would pop up other alternatives. Don’t forget to use Google Takeout if you have an account with them.

        Goodluck!

        • @rxbudian@lemmy.caEnglish
          2•2 months ago

          I wanted to use GrapheneOS, but only they only officially support Pixel.
          That means people have to pay Google upfront before deGoogling

        • @garretble@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3•2 months ago

          Firefox and Mozilla to a larger extent may be going down the gutter soon. They have been angling towards AI shit, and then their new terms of service debacle this last week makes it clear they want to sell your data for ads.

          I’ve moved from FF to Zen browser, which is a fork. And also Librewolf, another fork.

        • @T00l_shed@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2•2 months ago

          I appreciate it thanks! I’ve been using DDG and fire fox for a while. I’ll have to look up this Google takeout. Thanks again for the tips!

          • LanskeEnglish
            3•2 months ago

            Google take out worked for me to export all my google foto’s so i can save them somewhere else! I was using firefox as well, but moving now towards Librefox, duckduckgo browsers. I also like Vivaldi but not sure how good it is on the privacy meters :)

      • @emanuga@feddit.orgEnglish
        2•2 months ago

        Switched from Protonmail (after being a paying email/vpn/drive customer for 5 yrs) to Fastmail. Couldn’t be happier - if you have a 1Password account you get a discount and via the integration with 1Password it auto populates masked emails for discardable logins - same as SimpleLogin for protonmail.

      • LanskeEnglish
        10•2 months ago
        • Protonmail (i know it gets a lot of backfire on lemmy) and tutamail for mail
        • Proton drive for google drive
        • for travel i use TomoTom Go (amigo is free)
        • Duckduckgo and librewolf as browsers
        • Qwant and Ecosia as search engines

        good luck, and don’t flame me for using Proton lol

  • @x3x3@lemm.eeEnglish
    2•2 months ago

    Actually banning Coca Cola would probably mean a lot less people becoming sick and obese

  • @customcombos@lemm.eeEnglish
    51•2 months ago

    I’m American (embarrassed to say that right now) and came to visit this site to get off Reddit. Even we are exploring non-US options.

    • SpaniardEnglish
      6•2 months ago

      Don’t be embarrassed of being an American, you can be embarrassed of your politicians, of the people that represent you without being embarrassed of where you were born. You can criticize all the bads things in your country (and your country has done) while also being proud of the good things!

      But to be fair, you were warned about political parties from the start of your democracy, and even with the warning having just 2 is terrible.

      • @JustExit@lemmy.studioEnglish
        -6•2 months ago

        The american politicians are fine, what gaslighting is this the world loves doing to America? fucking ridiculous. EU flooded with muslims and stabbings look inside your own shit country before critisizing America.

        • kilonovaEnglish
          2•2 months ago

          America is fucking garbage. Shut the fuck up.

    • LitEnglish
      2•2 months ago

      make sure to leave a negative review of the reddit app.

  • @viking@infosec.pubEnglish
    5•2 months ago

    Unfortunately there’s hardly any American product I use here in Malaysia, so I can’t make any sort of impact.

    The only American things I use are various software applications I need for work (and no, as an employee I can’t simply switch to FOSS).

  • @freebee@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    46•2 months ago

    Here’s to hoping trump tariff war makes those stupid American pick-up trucks a lot more expensive to buy in EU. I hope the douchebags that bought them before have to pay way higher prices for parts now.

    • @NotJohnSmith@feddit.ukEnglish
      6•2 months ago

      I feel bad that as consumers at best we label all under Trump’s banner, at worst we don’t have the ability to punish only the red states like government tariffs can do

      Stay strong

    • @eran_morad@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25•2 months ago

      Bro, me too, fuck everything about trump, and right now, fuck us. I’m not buying shit unless I have to. Except from local shops.

    • @justtobbi@feddit.org
      2•2 months ago

      Can you somehow add content to these lists? I think I didn’t see Galaxus (european Amazon alternative) on there anywhere :)

    • @Showroom7561@lemmy.caEnglish
      6•2 months ago

      Thank you!

      As a Canadian, I have no problem supporting our EU friends.

      And to be honest, just looking at the list you can tell that the ethics within those companies are completely different than what you find with the American alternatives.

      Even without a dictator leading the States, buying European would still be better. 🤭

      Pretty wild, actually!

      • @Jack@lemmy.caEnglish
        8•2 months ago

        In South Africa, the law determines that if something’s labeled “Product of South Africa” it can’t have any imported ingredients (tho the packaging can be imported).

        “Produced in South Africa” can have imported ingredients - and I’ve been boycotting almost all of that because of the omnicidal carbon footprint of importing things. It’s easier in this country to live ethically tho because we can grow almost everything we need: from food to textiles; tho our energy production is some of the most unethical in the world.

    • @chmod755@feddit.orgEnglish
      15•2 months ago

      Another terrible situation like Brexit - where the voices of many reasonable people are ignored. Feel free to come to Europe any time

    • Goldholz English
      2•2 months ago

      Will do traitors <3 Get an earthquake from all the ww2 vets and former presidents spinning in their graves from whats going on with you <3

  • @Magister@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23•2 months ago

    As a Canadian in this shit for a month, go for it!!! My last groceries contained 0% products from USA, if it’s doable for us Canadian, you can do it too! And don’t forget to cancel netflix, disney+, prime, etc.

  • @Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
    20•2 months ago

    If you want to learn how to do successful boycott campaigns, you should look for the BDS Movement, that has worked to spread awareness to boycott companies affiliated with the illegal Israeli occupation and genocide against Palestinians.

    And no surprise, you will find many US companies in there. Also it should come as no surprise, that the US wants to outlaw even talking about boycotts in many states, as well as corrupt European politicians like in Germany attacking the notion of boycotting companies involved with brutal crimes against humanity.

    We need to join efforts in reducing the economic power of Imperialism, whichever shape it takes.

    https://bdsmovement.net/