“you’re wrong about what’s going on in your own country. I done seen it on ma boob toob”
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Dunno, go overseas and tell people you’re either Canadian or American and measure the response
I visited an American working friend in Russia around the turn of the century. If asked, like by our cab driver, he’d say he was Canadian. They would then nastily trash Americans. The Cold War made both populations suspicious of if not just hate the other but the Russians have had the hate reinforced stronger and harder by their government.
Other countries, there’s not as much anti-American bias. Well, there wasn’t. Now, I expect it’ll spread for different reasons.
Americans pretending to be Canadian while on vacation is a trope that extends beyond Russia.
Yeah, i remember during the Iraq war years there were a suspicious number of Canadian backpackers
I couldn’t watch it all. I felt embarrassed. What the fuck does Russian interference in a U.S. election have to do with Russia trying to take over Ukraine?
Clearly Trump believes he has some friendship with Putin that would influence this whole conflict.
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As an American I with all honesty say, I’ve been called worse by better 😀
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Your wit is astonishing, how awful you’ve made me feel. 😅
Trump is a volatile, mercurial, shallow fool. One minute he’s Zelenskyy’s buddy, next he’s ranting about him.
Probably got spanked by Putin for being nice, so now he’s back to being a bastard.
This hurt me to watch and it hurts me to see people supporting Trump’s actions.
Suppose for whatever reason that you do disagree with providing more aid. Was humiliating the leader of another nation in this manner justified at all? Were these the actions that any reasonable, dignified leader would make? You could have just refused to meet with him and told him no. Instead they dehumanized him, made him grovel and beg for support from their king full well knowing he was just going to say no anyways.
I keep trying to look for some good in the people of this nation, to see that there’s still some humanity left, but I don’t think there is at this point.
This has to be a put on. All of the deal making gets done beforehand. Two leaders sitting down and making a deal on video is symbolic, all of the groundwork is long done before it gets to this point. Trump and company are putting on a show for the camera
Krasnov gonna krasnov.
I wanted to point out something about what Trump said during that meeting…
“You’re in a bad position right now. You don’t have the cards.”
My understanding is that Ukraine did have the cards, they were called nukes, but they gave them up for peace and guarantees of protection from the United States, and others, against invasion.
And then, they got invaded.
Twice.
Edit: https://www.npr.org/2022/02/21/1082124528/ukraine-russia-putin-invasion
Edit2: Always pay attention to what the other hand is doing.
Trump, like every arogant POS has overestimated his strength. Europe can and will enter the conflict as Russia has proven itself to be an existential threat. NATO is dead, but EU has been planning for this. I wouldn’t be surprised if UKR already has or will obtain a nuke and put on a show of force . Nuking Russian troops on its own territory would be fine- and provide ground denial to the Russians.
NATO is dead
Somebody better tell them. In the meanwhile, their twin sibling, OTAN, will take over.
I wouldn’t be surprised if UKR already has or will obtain a nuke
I’d think they would have stopped their war by now if so.
Nuking Russian troops on its own territory would be fine
I’m sure Mr. Radiation will cooperate and not float over any innocent cities, and will stay inside of the political borders where the bomb went off.
I’m also sure that nobody would consider retaliating over something like that, as it would be taken as just a minor misunderstanding.
And yes, /s .
Winds blow east in that part of the world.
They were counting on US support so they played nice. If Europe fails to do anything meaningful we might see UKR do something incalculable.
UKR knows that the only way to stop Putin is to match his posture. They have openly stated last year that they should get a nuke since US is unreliable.
Retaliate for nuking their own territory?
Winds blow east in that part of the world.
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Retaliate for nuking their own territory?
So nuke one of the largest ‘bread baskets’ in the World?
Cut off a limb to save the body. Radiation contamination is a pretty effective ground denial strategy- make those eastern oblasts uninhabitable for a 100years. That would afford some time for Russia to turn itself inside out.
I’m not suggesting it’s any planners first choice, but it would certainly protect the border from further ground invasions.
The scary thing is - ignoring these protection guarantees kills nuclear non proliferation.
Ignoring Ukraine for now, with a few French nukes we don’t have enough in Europe to do nuclear deterrence. The US not being a trustworthy partner anymore and with Russia on our doorstep that means long term we simply need more of our own. I hate the thought, but can’t find a way around it.
The French and UK nuclear arsenal is the only thing standing between humanity and disaster. Sad to say this but you guys need to be pumping those things out fast.
Because of Traitorapist Trump, every country in the world will rightly want to have their own nuclear weapons now. You just know that today is going to be mentioned in the history books as the beginning of widespread nuclear proliferation and the dire consequences that follow.
every country in the world will rightly want to have their own nuclear weapons now. You just know that today is going to be mentioned in the history books as the beginning of widespread nuclear proliferation
I’m honestly surprised other countries didn’t start proliferating after the first time Ukraine was invaded by Russia, years ago.
That’s one hell of an object lesson for any country to have learned, watching that happen.
For today, if nothing else, the lesson was learned, if you already have nukes, don’t give them up for promises of protection.
Three times.
The Donetsk conflict was started by militias trained, supplied, and paid by Russia. With Russian troops entering Donestk for technical support, logistical support, and really just any help they needed including combat units to beat back the Ukrainian Army at several points.
Donetsk was the actual “Special Military Operation”.
The other hand just released that trumps name shows up 7 times in Eppstein’s flight logs.
No, not a joke, it was released today by trumps own minions.
Link?
This is where I saw it, top result for me of the last 24h:
Thanks.
Didn’t Russia have the keys to those nukes though?
Wouldn’t have mattered even if true. Physical access trumps everything. Worst case scenario, if they really wanted to, they could reverse engineer the primer & guidance system, then replace the originals with their own.
Keep in mind that Ukraine was a massive hub for military industry in the USSR.
My understanding was that Ukraine did.
But also, since they were neighbors, you wouldn’t need to launch missiles, you could just take the payload out of a missile, stick it in a briefcase, and walk it over.
He also incorrectly tried to correct Zelensky on when his fucking country was invaded… Clown
Encapsulates why trump has no business near power of any kind. The most confidently incorrect dickhead anyone will ever meet
I’m so sorry, I’m so embarrassed and not for my country, I don’t even live there. I’m sorry for humanity
Wow that went worse than I thought it would. TBH I was thinking he might actually pull off a win here.
I’m left with my original thought that Trump is actively trying to destroy America. Everything he and Elon are doing seems to be doing nothing but undermine standing and stability. Truly mind bending. I wonder when/if MAGA will snap from the trance.
Everything he and Elon are doing seems to be doing nothing but undermine standing and stability.
They’re disbanding over half of the federal government. We’re seeing it happen.
That was my take away too, especially side by side with illegally dismantling USAID (and with it, US soft power) and a ton of functional agencies (e.g. NOAA, FDIC) that don’t cost much and protect us both physically and financially. If I wrote a playbook of how to quickly cripple a county, it would pretty much be this.
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Zekenskyy did the best he could; he came in humility and he really didn’t have any cards at that table. He had no cards because he didn’t come to play, he came to capitulate to the whims of a tyrant to try and save the lives of his countrymen by signing a one-sided deal.
That video will go down in history as one of the greatest moments of infamy in this age - if there were any justice Trump and the puppet masters behind him should be tried for the spark that lit the third world war.
I read what happened, and after I knew I watched the video clip.
I’m still under shock.
The world is turning, this is an important point in history. I was in disbelief for a long time, but we Europeans can’t trust the US anymore.
This might be a good thing after all, we need to wean off the American teat and decouple ourselves. We need our own tech stacks, we need our own EU troops and we need our own whatever Nato once was.
We need to jump in and cough up the money to replace the Ukraine Support the US did.
I’m fucking afraid, the risk of
an even bigger war just greatly increased.But whatever will happen we’ll never be able to trust the USA again, even if things get better there’s no guarantee the same shit happens again 4 years later.
The only rational thing is to isolate ourselves from the sick patient.
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Diplomacy by reality TV—Trump’s Oval Office antics are reckless on the world stage.
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