I’m not from the US: What happened to Katie Britt, who gave her response to Biden’s State of the Union address from her kitchen? Is she happy now? I mean, not that I wanted to criticize anyone, but that was totally obvious even before the election.
No, no, no. She’s not one of those women, you see. That’s for the other women.
I see, a kind of Clarence Thomas type of thing.
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I mean, a major problem in society is that two incomes are required to pay off a mortgage - and making one member of that equation unable to work society wide would solve that, leading to mortgages and hence housing price calibration (calibrating it to a single wage income)…
…but I was kind of hoping that wouldn’t be a product of gender segregation. Also this seems like it’s going to affect a lot of other things and people women’s autonomy and hence freedom and safety in jeopardy.
No Bueno.
Realistically, the loss of women’s income would lead to a housing crisis as millions of families are unable to pay their mortgage, but it’s naive to think housing prices will plummet. Plenty of vulture capital firms and the like will happily scoop those houses up to rent back to us in perpetuity.
Except the amount they’d need to rent them for just to break even would still be just about as high as the mortgage payment would have been, so they’re gonna lose out there, too.
Even then, they still own the housing stock as assets, which they can hold indefinitely. Their financial backing and ability to weather financial storms is much higher than the average American family. The goal is to remove ownership from the lower classes and ensure the plebs can only rent. It’s more about control than anything.
No, I’m saying it would calibrate housing prices as mortgages failed… Ao it would be a long term solution not some patch up job.
In a world where only men can work mortgages would be calibrate to singilar male incomes.
A better calibration would be a three day week so one person could work and one person could do household stuff on any particular day and you still have a day to enjoy together.
I think it’s adorable that people believe that the capitalists would do away with female labor instead of going back to the good old days of just devaluing it. The myth that women didn’t work outside the home is a fiction. Only the upper classes could afford such a luxury. Poor woman always had to work, often for much less pay.
Poor woman always had to work, often for much less pay.
Exactly. Women always worked - they were just segregated into lower paying jobs and had less rights (pregnant? no more job for you! and since you’re desperate, enjoy the shitty working conditions).
There will always be poor single mothers that have to work to support their family. They just won’t have labor protections.
Sad to see that people thing this is the working class fault and not the rich class fault. Just like everything from recycling plastic global warming, and child marriage
When are they going to start coming for the black folks so we can watch Clarence Thomas squirm?
You mean so we can watch him vote yes on it?
Maybe he’ll get fired for being a DEI justice. I honestly don’t want whatever would replace him tho.
Once they run out of other others.
Scanning the article, the practical threat (besides crazy ideological stunts) seems to be stealth disenfranchisement of this type:
House Republicans passed a bill (which stalled in the Senate) this session to require citizens to have a passport or birth certificate matching their name to vote. This would be a back-door ban on voting for any woman who took her husband’s last name and doesn’t have a passport, an estimated 69 million women. It would also disproportionately affect Republican women, who are more likely to be married, more likely to have changed their name and less likely to have a passport.
A passport always contains the current last name. If you took on a new one you have to get a new one issued. That’s standard pretty much all over the world.
Edit: Ok, a lot of users wrote that there’s no ID card/paper that’s common in other parts of the world. In my country a driver license is not enough to prove my identity because it’s not an ID card.
Guess you are fucked then.
Americans are pretty weird about their ID things.
Other than a driver’s license, most of them don’t have any ID.
They don’t have any sort of unique ID number either. They have a social security number, which is not guaranteed to be unique. Two people can have the same SSN. One person can have two SSNs. You’re apparently supposed to keep your SSN secret, but they’re assigned somewhat sequentially and they get leaked a lot. It’s a clusterfuck.
The sad thing is this is kinda solved in the advertising space. Like, they know who I am, uniquely, including emails, phone numbers, and drivers license. The data is available, but banks (the primary users of the SSN) are perpetually stuck with 30yo tech.
It is supposed to to keep your SSN secret and not carry the card with you everywhere but you have to memorize it and everyone and their dog is gonna ask for it. It is kinda scary how many times you have to give it out to random people over the phone or email.
SSN is about the worst identifier, but they have revamped the process to remove some of those issues. It should no longer be possible for people to be issued the same number, and they’re no longer sequential or assigned in geographic blocks.
Doesn’t change the existing ones, but going forward.
SSNs are guaranteed to be unique upon assignment. The problem is that so many leaks have happened that nearly everyone’s has been stolen and is being used in some type of financial identity theft. The thieves are the people with two (or more) SSNs.
No one in my family has a passport. So with this law only the men could vote, unless they spend the money to get a passport despite not aiming to travel.
you have to get a new one issued
This is the part that’s mistaken: you don’t need a passport if you don’t travel to foreign lands. As far as I know, Americans usually prove their identity using a driver’s license, rarely using a passport.
Birth certificates can’t be changed and need to match, and that’s one of the forms of ID listed.
Passports aren’t free, and not everyone has one to begin with. This blatantly stonewalls women, especially underprivileged women.
Some states allow you to update your birth certificate after a legal name change. It’s definitely not universal, and much less likely in red states.
Some states allow you to update your birth certificate after a legal name change.
This also has a fee attached.
It’s definitely not universal, and much less likely in red states.
Yeah, even just checking, and it looks like Massachusetts doesn’t allow name changes for this purpose, and really only does it to correct mistakes at the time a record was made: "For example, you cannot change your birth record solely for a legal change of name. "
Did they even think any of this through? LOL
Most citizens in the divided states of southern north america do not have a passport though. And a birth certificate doesn’t have your current last name on it if you took someone else’s in marriage. That’s the point.
It won’t affect republican women because the people running those voting stations won’t enforce the rule for “their own”.
Dam I never thought about it
For the believers, I think that tmany would be fine with this. It reinforces their preferred structure of a patriarchy in which they have a well-defined place and role (head of the domestic household, subservient to the man). No worries about having to deal with a fickle job market or figuring out what you want to do with your life. Your life path is set (get married, raise kids, take care of family), and, for some, that well-defined role the status that it conveys is really comforting. It provides a sense of security.
It’s why, I expect, while there are many who fight it, there are plenty of women in Muslim societies who are fine with things as they are. We emphasize with those women who chafe at that and fight it since we’ve history valued the individual rights of self-determination and freedom, of course.
Thats a big allure of the American taliban to some folks. It provides structure and defined roles in a chaotic world.
Of course, republican men like it for the power, but more importantly, that women voters mostly vote against them. Stopping women from voting would cement them in power.
If you gloss over the fact that it could be FUCKING VOLUNTARY instead of hate crime. your point is valid for anyone that loves to be forced to do things they don’t believe in
I’m not arguing for it, I agree that it’s fine if it’s a free choice. I don’t think personally that it’s a good one, though.
My point is that many of the women pushing this on the republican side view all of this, including their own loss of rights, as a positive likely. It’s not like a “leopards eating faces” or “voting against their interests” situation where they might be reachable.
But they are. As soon as they don’t want what they vote to force. It doesn’t matter what specific type of faschism or what rights they are removing, if they are removing rights they don’t need they are still being eaten by leopards once they fall down the other side, accidental or not
Imagine how little self-respect you’d have to have to be a woman and vote Republican.
Making sure that women have very little self-respect is one of the primary functions of American Evangelicalism.
There is a real lack of critical thinking, too. I legit know a few Republican women that honestly think that not eating meat will make a man effeminate, and that men that eat meat are more manly.
Obviously due to stupid marketing, but even in their cinematic universe where this is “true” it makes no sense and has no consistency. I’ve asked them if they think that women that eat meat are going to spontaneously sprout a penis.
They unironically think Harris was some kind of monster and that it was all worth it to keep trans out of sports.
Well surely it was never going to affect them. They are one of the good ones, it’s the others that need to be controlled. Why would they ever come for me if I am living a proper God fearing life?
Lydia, it’s because you vote for forcing others to do things they don’t believe in, not the specific things that are targeted at this moment
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What in the actual fuck are you talking about
I can tell you’re upset because I said truths you don’t like.
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“Truths”, bro get your misogyny out of here.
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Yeah, the longer we go without acknowledging it, the more you prove my point.
No, I already acknowledged that you’re a misogynist.
Still proving my point.
Well, if we stopped babying women and treated them like adults, then maybe this would seem more farfetched.
How do we treat women like babies? You keep popping up here and you never provide examples or evidence to support your perspective/argument.
Unfortunately, most women think being treated as an adult is being “unfair” to them because they’re so used to being treated like children.
How to tell everyone you are an incel without directly saying so. When did trolling become this sad.
How do we treat women like babies? You keep popping up here and you never provide examples or evidence to support your perspective/argument.
That’s because I get censored without being able to engage in an actual discussion.
How to tell everyone you are an incel without directly saying so. When did trolling become this sad.
Lol, keep covering your ears to truths you don’t like. I don’t expect more from you people at this point.
That’s because I get censored without being able to engage in an actual discussion.
I just asked you to give your reasoning and you are bitching about being censored. I’ll ask again, how do women get treated like babies… Or do you not have the ability to articulate your point?
Lol, keep covering your ears to truths you don’t like. I don’t expect more from you people at this point.
Only an idiot would think that was a good reply.
Try again?
You’re not the one with the power to censor me, and I’ve been censored already for trying to discuss reality.
I can tell you’re upset at me because I say hard truths you don’t like. I’m going to block you now because you’re going to keep pestering me to satisfy your herd mentality.
Goodbye.
You’re not the one with the power to censor me, and I’ve been censored already for trying to discuss reality.
Why can’t you answer my question?
I can tell you’re upset at me because I say hard truths you don’t like. I’m going to block you now because you’re going to keep pestering me to satisfy your herd mentality
You have yet to present a single truth so far, so why would I be upset? You can’t even explain your “truth” when asked multiple times.
Goodbye.
Run away.
Not a USA citizen, but a Hungarian, but I think some stuff still holds ground in the USA ground: They primarily think these right-wing radicals are just “jolly little conservatives”, and not radicals, since they call themselves “conservatives”. Contrary to the naive liberal belief, conservatism isn’t just a jolly little belief of personally held traditions and healthy patriotism, it’s just “fascism lite” which will turn full-out fascism once the checks and balances are removed, or getting extremely frustrated with social change.
And also there’s the whole “you will get more conservative as you get older” propaganda, which makes a lot of young people “skip the liberalism and fast-forward to the inevitable”, and they either want to remain conservatives because “jolly little belief of personally held traditions and healthy patriotism”, or they believe they can’t leave. Many also go down the hate road, and they’ll get called all kinds of names if they forgive wrongdoers who were part of a minority, and they don’t weaponize that wrongdoing into genocidal thoughts. We seriously need to counter this whole “you will get more conservative as you get older” with something. Can someone contact Innuendo Studios? I have an idea for an episode of “The Alt-Right Playbook” if he still haven’t made one on this topic.
You get more liberal when you get older. puts on pirate hat and racks shotgun
“When they came for me, there was nobody left to help.”
I wish it was only republican women losing their rights.
How ironic, that dehumanizing rhetoric is exactly how we got here.
Dehumanizing? I am just saying they should get what they asked for. But here the thing: being a minority isn’t a choice, being gay isn’t a choice. Being a republican is. But if that is dehumanizing then so be it. They can join humanity again whenever they want.
really… yeah, let’s shed a tear for the poor republican women, waving “Mass Deportation Now” signs. They didn’t seem to care about dehumanization so much then. Now they are the ones being dehumanized, hopefully they’ll remember how that feels come mid-terms.
Stooping to their level doesn’t make us better than them.
Try to understand that most of them don’t know any better and are just trying to look good in front of their peers who also do not know any better.
Look, I try. Most of the time. I’m trying to be empathetic and nice and inclusive. But sometimes I wonder while fully grown adults can’t use Google. Why they would believe the most obvious lies (“they’re eating the dogs” is a great example - an absurd lie that was debunked 100x by every outlet within days). Again these are fully grown adults who choose to be hateful, angry and wilfully ignorant. In fact they revel in that ignorance. Warnings are “alarmist”, factchecks are “biased”, opponents are “traitors”. These are fully grown adults that would trade the price of eggs for suffering of thousands of “illegals” and they entrust this trade to Donald Trump, a man who in his life has never taken a shot into a toilet that wasn’t made out of gold. Like yeah, sure, THAT guy is gonna care about the poor.
My point is, we’re all adults, we all make our choices as best we can. But if you keep making the same terrible choices and yell at anyone who tries to tell you they are bad choices, well… You deserve what’s coming to you, because you’ve unleashed that on all of us.
True, all humans are like children. Maybe AI should take over.
Surviving humans, take note:
Per Syndicate rules, subsection 543 of the Precious Elemental Reserves Code, having failed to file a proper appeal for mineral and elemental rights within 50 solars of first contact, your planet has been successfully seized and is currently being mined of all requested elemental deposits by the assigned planetary regent.
Every interior of your world has been crushed and all raw materials-organic and inanimate-are in the process of being mined for the requested elements.
Per the Mined Material Reclamation Act along with subsection 35 of the Indigenous Planetary Species Protection Act, any surviving humans will be given the opportunity to reclaim their lost matter. The Borant Corporation, having been assigned regency over this solar system, is allowed to choose the manner of this reclamation, and they have chosen option 3, also known as the 18-Level World Dungeon. The Borant Corporation retains all rights to broadcast, exploit, and otherwise control all aspects of the World Dungeon and will remain in control as long as they adhere to Syndicate regulations regarding world resource reclamation.
Upon successful completion of level 18 of the World Dungeon, regency of this planet will revert to the successor.
A Syndicate neutral observer AI-myself-has been created and dispatched to this planet to supervise the creation of the World Dungeon and to ensure all the rules and regulations are properly followed.
Please pay careful attention to the following information as it will not be repeated.
Per the Indigenous Planetary Species Protection Act, all remaining materials-estimated to be 99.999999% of the sifted matter-is currently being repurposed for the subterranean World Dungeon. The first level of this dungeon will open approximately 18 seconds after the end of this announcement. The first-level entrances will be open for exactly one human hour and one hour only. Once the entrances are closed, you may no longer enter. If you enter, you may not leave until you have either completed all 18 levels of the World Dungeon or if you meet certain other requirements.
Weird, that is how I treated the AI too…
Nice, maybe this is the extra little push for some turncoats in congress.
So surprising, things have really changed since the “grab her by the pussy” days
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