Summary
A new Leger poll reveals that 27% of Canadians now consider the U.S. an “enemy” country, while 30% still see it as an ally.
The survey follows escalating tensions, including President Trump’s tariff threats and his suggestion that Canada should become a U.S. state.
Trump remains widely unpopular in Canada, with 74% viewing him unfavorably. Political affiliation influences perceptions, with Conservatives more likely to see the U.S. as an ally.
Liberals, NDP, and Bloc Québécois supporters view the U.S. more negatively.
Surprised it’s that low, before trump I would have thought it would be at around 25%
There are a lot of maple maga and confederate flag waving trash in Canada though, so it probably balanced out a bit
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We did have an idea, we saw the gas chambers. Now just like the Israelis, we’re taking a turn at being the bad guy, so yeah arm and practice. Slow is smooth, smooth is fast
Sorry Canada
Yeah the current US government is an enemy to everyone right now, a cancer that needs to be excised.
So 73% of Canadians don’t see the news?
Sir, we have Fox News in most cable bundles.
It’s all relative… Just like math.
27% seems a little low.
Given that Trump has been threatening daily to invade or otherwise annex Canada, I would agree with you there. What’s the definition of an enemy country if not one that is constantly threatening to destroy you and seize what is yours?
Do we have to wait for it to actually happen before the slower Canadians catch on? Or are we dealing with that group of Canadians that worship Trump and would consider the destruction of their own country to be helpful? There’s a word for people like that.
Or maybe Canadians are being nice and talking about the USA in a non-political sense, as the American people. Even then, given the relatively high approval ratings of Trump and Musk in recent polls, it’s clear many of the American people are not friendly towards Canada.
I don’t know what to even think anymore. Our neighbour wants to invade us but all our talent just ends up moving to the states anyway (at least in my industry) since they can make way more money. Housing is fucked, wages are fucked, and what does buy canadian even mean? from lablaws? fuck that, everything is a monopaly up here from groceries, telecoms, everything! What does it even mean to be canadian anymore? At least we’ve got our principals, I’m glad we’re pushing back and taking a stance but I hate the direction this country is headed. Things are bad and theres no end in sight.
We’ve still got plenty to fight for, as long as our country isn’t under the control of actual Nazis like the USA is. Europe before WW2 had problems, but it was still very much worse for everyone once the Nazis rolled in. Let’s not let that happen, and at least buy ourselves the possibility of improving life in Canada.
cheers to that.
About 90% of people I know avoid buying American goods if possible now…
I wonder how things will change in the next few months.
It seems to me it would be such an obvious thing for Canadian companies to change their packaging to prominently feature Canadian flags, but that takes time. Until then, it’s still a bit difficult to know which products are Canadian vs. American vs. made somewhere else.
There’s a small chance that Trump will back down and try to play nice with Canadians. But, I doubt it. So, I don’t think Canadians are going to start changing their mind on buying US products any time soon.
I wonder if retailers will make it easy too. They generally try to stay out of politics and don’t want to alienate anybody. But, if anger about the US continues, people might expect retailers to make it easier to buy Canadian and easier to avoid US products.
At my grocery store in Canada each Canadian product has a Canadian Flag next to each shelf price sticker. Makes it easy to know what to grab.
Is it Loblaws or Metro or another big chain, or is it a smaller store? I’m guessing the big corporate stores will be the slowest to change.
Believe it or not, it’s a Sobey’s, so big chain. I was pleasantly surprised that it happened so quickly. I don’t know if my local store is representative of the chain though.
Yeah, that’s what I thought. Take a hint Canada, do we need to tilt our hands up and stop pissing on your boots and start pissing on your face? Don’t trust a group of people where more than 50% of them voted for a convicted felon and mental retard to shape their future. Maybe the poll doesn’t account for the other 73% just feeling sad about their pathetic neighbor?
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Yeah only 27%. I mean everyone I know thinks of them as an enemy. They betrayed Mexico, Canada and Ukraine already and its only February.
We’ve been breaking treaties for as long as we’ve been a country, just ask the remnants of the native peoples. We’ve had brief, shining periods as a force for good or scientific achievement, but mostly it’s a big, racist shithole.
Also apparently told Europe that they’re pulling out of there unless they accept the deal for Ukraine’s surrender…
No shit! Should be more frankly.
We’re too nice, sorry.
If you were really sorry, you’d let us* move up there. ^^^Please?
*“Us” being those of us who are also very unhappy with what’s going on in the US.
Nope, piss off. Clean up your fucking mess.
That seems like a bit of an unnecessarily hostile response to a joke comment.
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Shocked it’s not higher
I’m an American, and I have never felt more politically or ideologically alienated from the country that is supposedly “mine”. Seriously considering fucking off, finding somewhere else to live, and renouncing my citizenship.
We gotta fight this. Can’t just leave.
But the majority of people here want this.
They can have Kentucky, but I’d fight for the PNW. We shouldn’t be one big country anyway.
the majority who bothered to vote, that is. I’d be willing to bet that even the shiftless morons who spend all day posting selfies and ignoring reality could eventually be motivated to action if things get bad enough down there. once they lose their followers and have nobody to pose for, what’s left for them to do? everybody needs a cause, even if it’s an idiotic one. you gotta fight— for your right— to post seellllllfies
I’m honestly not sure this context is winnable.
You should know that until you do renounce your citizenship, you’ll have to pay taxes in the US even if you live in another country. AFAIK only 2 countries in the world still use citizenship-based taxation: USA and Eritrea.
Also, if you ever do try to renounce your citizenship, it’s much more difficult than you might think. The people I know who have done it had to pay tens of thousands of dollars to complete the process, despite being up to date on their taxes and not being at all rich.
That’s because you are not America. When they talk about making America better, they’re not talking about you. Never did
Edit: I want to make it clear that what I mean is that they don’t care about the people, not that they shouldn’t
Yep. I’m a cishet white dude but even just as an atheist I’ve never been a “real” American in the eyes of far too many. And now the Christofascists are seizing control.
I’m currently setting that in motion for myself. Taking the chance to go back to college in another country and hoping to basically getting a do over for my life
Your country is under siege. If control isn’t regained, the America we once knew will be as history as the Weimar Republic.
Precisely the comparison I’ve been trying to make for a while now
As a Canadian, all I want is enough time and will to become more independent from the US, so far so good so I’m a little optimistic.
We are Americans.
We are Americans, oh yeah!
We carry great big guns
'Cause we are Americans!
Oh yeah!We’re strong (we’re strong!)
And we’re free (we’re free!)
We are Coke, We are Pepsi
'Cause we are Americans
We are Americans.What we’d like to do for you right now,
is a short history of the United States of America.
First of all a short scene depicting the United States
of America, and their diplomacy.Hey pal, do whatever I tell ya!
No!
I got a really big gun here…
All right then.Yeah! Secondly a short scene depicting the United States
of America, and their economy, yeah!
Hey pal, gimme all your money.
No!
I got a really big gun here…
All right!And thirdly a short scene depicting the United States
of America, and I’m sure we all understand their foreign policy, yeah!
Hey pal, let’s go fight a war in Iraq.
Okay! Where’s Iraq?
Yeah!And finally a short scene depicting the United States of America, and the settlement,
the settlement of that great nation, we know and love as the USA, yeah.
Hey you Indian. Here’s a bunch of glass beads, gimme all your land.
No.
I got a great big gun here.
Nice beads!We are Americans
We are Americans, ah yeah!
We carry great big guns, yeah!
'Cause we are AmericansWe’re strong (we’re strong!)
And we’re free (we’re free!)
We are Coke, We are PepsiAnd we wear
Canadian flags
When we travel On our bags'Cause we are Americans (ah yeah!)
We are Americans (c’mon everybody, make like you’re at Woodstock, yeah!)
We are Americans
We are Americans
We are Americans, Here we go!
We are Americans
Everything I do… I do it for you.– Americans, Corky and the Juice Pigs [who were a Canadian musical comedy group]
It’s sad how the US has spent so long building up an alliance with Canada, only for it to all be ruined by Trump in such a short amount of time. I was planning on travelling to California but those plans have since been scrapped as I just don’t feel comfortable travelling to the US. I’m genuinely worried things may escalate further.
I wanted to go to my first Combo Breaker in Chicago but that’s not happening.
We just cancelled our trip to Disney, which is sad, but I see there are some other locations in Tokyo or Paris, so might look at going there for a middle ground.
As a Californian I can assure you that unless you’re in the absolute middle of nowhere nobody would even bat an eye at you having a Canadian accent.
I think there’s concern about the fucking plane crashing on the way. 100% legit concern.
Wow friend, that’s really reassuring buddy.
I wanted to visit New York City but never had the chance.
I’m not going to be going any time soon, that’s for sure.
Yeah, that’s like the one part of America that holds mystique for me too. I guess American Samoa has the weird timezone.
It has been a constant barrage of misinformation spread across the world for decades.
We’ve seen many reports of misinformation farms from Russia, China and North Korea and this is the result of it.
misinformation farms from Russia, China and North Korea
For those unfamiliar:
The Internet Research Agency, also known as Glavset, and known in Russian Internet slang as the Trolls from Olgino or Kremlinbots, was a Russian company which was engaged in online propaganda and influence operations on behalf of Russian business and political interests. It was linked to Yevgeny Prigozhin, a former Russian oligarch who was leader of the Wagner Group, and based in Saint Petersburg, Russia.
The 50 Cent Party, also known as the 50 Cent Army or wumao, are Internet commentators who are paid by the authorities of the People’s Republic of China to spread the propaganda of the governing Chinese Communist Party (CCP). The program was created during the early phases of the Internet’s rollout to the wider public in China.
Well, with any luck we’ll both be able to visit the New California Republic in a few years
As a Californian, I’m hella stoked for the future nation of Pacifica.
Patrolling the Mojave? Nah, a stroll around the Night City should be nicer even.
I read this as Canada being the second head at first.
Which is actually appropriate, because we have a similar population, and would make sure the Republicans never win another election just like a second California (and besides the, y’know, French-tinged guerilla warfare).
That would be epic
So what you’re saying is California will declare its independence as soon as the genetic experiments to create an army of two-headed bears are successful?
Funny part first time I saw it I thought it could be 2 bears in profile for California mark 2.
I could see that if the second bear wasn’t missing two sets of legs.
It’s perspective hahahah
That’s not how perspective works.
If NY and California just split off or joined with Canada…
They should apply to the EU
Would be nice if Canada annex all of Pacific Coast
I have family down there that I’ll never see again. There’s no way in hell I’m going back down to that shithole, ever. It already felt like enemy territory even before the first Trump administration. Now it’s like booking a holiday in Nazi Germany in 1939. Fuck all that.
What part of the country already felt hostile? The South or some flyover state?
Florida I’m sure
I have relatives who moved to the states, they tend to come down once a year since they have their own business and can easily take off time whenever, whereas for me as a full-time employee it’s not so simple. I’ve already not visited the states in quite a few years so that part isn’t a loss for me at least.
I dunno if they will visit this year though, that will be interesting to see what happens with that.
It’s 1933 Germany at worst. Give them some credit. /s
Well… of course they are. We’re threatening their right to exist. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t necessarily always see eye to eye with Canada and its people, but this is beyond fucked up.
States dont have a right to exist. People have a right to self determination, which can be exercised through a state with proper representation.
So the US is threatening the right to self determination of the Canadian people, although both the US and Canada have been built as European colonies on the genocide of the rightful people of the continent called North America.
Of course acknowledging the US history of oppression, slavery and genocide is something the Trump admin wants to suppress.
The whole “states right to exist” thing is thrown around by Israel as another genocidal settler colony.
Referring to Canada as the “51st State” and their prime minister as “governor” is a direct attack and invalidation of Canada, its culture, and its people’s distinct identity. This isn’t just about sovereignty. This is about us trying to erase them
27% of Americans also view the United States as an ‘enemy’ country
We are absolutely an enemy to the free world now. There used to be a tiny sliver of decency, but that has long since been abandoned.
To the rest of the world: take us down.
don’t invade us
gets out ballgag
ooooh i’d hate it soooo much to get invaded
handcuffs self to radiator
it would be so awful getting invaded
I think I’m going to invade that ass
You have power. Help us out: https://specificsuggestions.com/
See also: CIA guides to simple sabotage.
With fucking what? You have the most powerful economy on earth, and you’ve used it to build the most powerful military on earth. Invading the US would be the most diasterous war the world has ever seen.
Wake the fuck up. If you guys don’t fix this shit, we are all completely and utterly fucked.
No one is coming to save you.
I don’t remember saying shit about us not handling this internally or going to war but you do you.
The idea that the USA is untouchable by global counterparts is absurd. Look at what Russia does to our elections with a couple of script kiddies. We can absolutely be targeted and displaced by outside forces, especially with the current crop of dipshits running the federal government right now.
All Russia did was give a nudge to the literal trillions of dollars in capital held by elites who wanted nothing more than full-blown fascism. All the Kremlin had to do was finance whoever could sow the most distrust in democratic institutions and wedge themselves in existing divides within the US. It’s the most boring coup in history, people voting for Hitler not because of Bolshevism of whatever but because they’re triggered by fucking vaccines and pronouns.
Conversely even if the EU went full hybrid warfare (which we aren’t because we can’t even do anything about the open fascists in our own Union), the counterplay is rebuilding trust which is harder by orders of magnitude than just buying up a social media, deleting moderation, and promoting the Nazi stuff.
Best we could hypothetically do is sanction y’all into autarchy and hope the subsequent recession/depression acts as an electroshock to the population, but you’re already doing it to yourselves and besides I see no reason why the two thirds of y’all who either don’t care or actively support fascism would change their minds. It will be just like Putin Orban or Erdogan, 15 years from now shit will be worse than ever for the 99 % but Republicans will still win elections without even needing to cheat much thanks to their complete control over state propaganda. Your democracy is dead, you should be moving through the stages of grief and planning your next move.
I’d love to be proven wrong but there’s too much historical precedent, and zero precedent to Americans being even remotely close to politically conscious enough to engage in “forceful” political change (unless the force is being exerted on Black people, then the “well regulated militia” comes out the woodwork). Hell, the videos from “protests” I’ve been seeing this week in your major cities look so pathetic it makes Denver look like a large village.
They do have a point though, that it’s your mess to clean up. Unlike so many US citizens, many of us actually know that you don’t always need to blow something up, figuratively or literally, when it stops working properly.
We don’t want to “take you down”. We want you to finally start behaving your damn selves. Clean up your own fucking messes, we’re not your parents.
That’s fair and I 100% agree.
We couldn’t even get our fellow countrymen to wear cloth masks without them screeching and guzzling horse dewormer. We’ve been demanding universal healthcare since at least the 90s; we got a fucking insurance marketplace instead, and the right wing has never stopped bitching about it to this day. If we could clean it up, we would have, but there’s a subset of our population that’s hopelessly propagandized. The only upshot here is that it tends to be a regional phenomenon and might be able to be addressed via balkanizing; just walk away from the table and let the fucking bozos be bozos in their own little bozoville.
It’s funny, the French are so often made fun of for being cowards but if their government does anything to try to strip their rights the whole fucking place throws a well deserved fit. The US mostly just sits on their fucking hands with the BLM protests being the only significant country-wide movement in a long time.
“We couldn’t”—fuck off, ya’ll didn’t even try. The slightest inconvenience and the country folds, and that’s even if any of you are paying any attention to the news at all. Too many of you fools don’t even know what the fuck is going on; at least Fox viewers are trying to keep up with politics(badly, but they’re doing it).
Get your fuckasses outside and do something that isn’t passing blame and staying home.
Every time we “do stuff” the mainstream media seizes the narrative and blocks popular support. The big thing from my region was CHAZ… a protest occupying ten city blocks for almost a month in response to police brutality. National media convinced the Right that we burned down Seattle, cops threw a fit and stopped doing their jobs, and if anything things are worse now for having tried.
We need enough general unrest that when things get violent, and they will, they can’t monopolize the narrative and send in the military. And even then I think the Right wins that war unless other countries are willing to help.
There is more than just “main stream media” out there. And yes, it’s a hard battle to fight, I won’t deny that, but c’mon, really? And this also goes back to the fact that too many citizens don’t even know what’s going on at any given moment out of willful ignorance.
It’s a tough battle upwards, the established propaganda model helps make sure of that, but undeniably at the end of the day, the workers in the US hold more than enough power collectively to threaten decision makers into compromise (and, if you have the guts, submission). I’m not even talking about violence, I’m talking about things like withholding labor and simple sabotage.
As member of the 27%, Im much more surprised that only 30% consider the US an ally. Trump has fucked Canadian’s public opinion so bad. Pre-election I’d expect that number to be around 80%
