• Tiefling IRL
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      The “women are too emotional to be leaders” crowd are running the show with the mentality of a grade school bully

  • @jaxxed@lemmy.ml
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    Does this break/invalidate the existing free trade agreements between the countries? Does this mean that NAFTA and TRUMPFTA are now void?

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      No, he’s using his imaginary fentanyl-from-Canada crisis to do an end run around that.

      It’s the same shit he does to his contractors: agree to a deal, then once the work is done find some fake “flaw” that justifies him demanding compensation. There’s a reason why nobody in New York was willing to take contracts for his buildings.

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      I don’t think it’s void exactly - there’s some stuff around visas that’s still active. But yeah, as far as being a trade agreement it’s pretty worthless.

  • @Kaput@lemmy.world
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    Personnaly I would put a mirror tarrif. Tax the stuff going out to USA. Canadian economy will slow down, don’t make life more expensive for Canadians. And that way Americans might notice it faster if they pay 50 percent more.

    • @PhAzE@lemmy.ca
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      The problem here, specifically, is that once imported items go up in price, there needs to be regulations that blocks local manufacturers from just upping their prices to match. Otherwise the imported items are still a viable purchase and tariffs will not work as a counter measure.

  • @chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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    American here.

    Don’t counter with tarrifs. Counter with embargoes. Trump loaded you a gun and handed it to you. Pull the fucking trigger already.

    • Phoenixz
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      I get what you’re saying, but the US being Canada’s biggest trading partner would absolutely destroy Canadian economy right together with the US economy

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        You know what’s frustrating in all that? Is that our leaders won’t do jack shit to diversify the economy.

        Nothing has changed much during COVID and nothing will change now.

        People will suffer and nothing will change.

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          Countries trade with the countries closest to them because the realities of logistics overpower politics or whatever ideals people might have. There are a few exceptions of course. Cuba doesn’t do a lot of trade with the countries closest to them. But they aren’t doing that well. The UK had an idea about diversifying their trade to be more about trade with non-european countries, but that didn’t go well either.

          Geography is a bitch. You can’t physically move a country to another part of the globe, you have to deal with the countries near to you whether you like it or not.

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            Absolutely, and we’ll have to deal with US until Pangaea, but what I’m frustrated about is that COVID and the first Trump presidency should have been a wake up call and try to find solutions to make Canada more resilient to the US market.

            But it has been status quo and our quality of life has been left to degrade with nothing to show for it.

            So our politicians will slap counter tariffs, change jack shit and pat themselves on the back.

            We are a big fucking country with a lot of resources but it seems like each province would rather trade with the US than with other provinces.

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        The Canadian economy will be ruined by any kind of half-measures.

        Don’t negotiate with a fascist state. Cut them off, recall ambassadors, and cease all joint military operations.

        Trump will never do anything to benefit Canada, so why give him an ounce of cooperation?

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          Our only reliable allies. Europeans and the Pacific Partners like Australia, NZ, Japan and South Korea… are all oceans away. The US has by overwhelming force, the largest navy in the world. Only China, who we don’t want to dive into the arms of and become a puppet of, even remotely stands a chance.

          Our allies aren’t going to rush to our aid in a worst case scenario, because they can’t get across the atlantic. and they’re also preoccupied with more or less being de-facto at war with the Russian Federation right now. and they are still not taking it seriously that they may have to fight for real over there.

          When you start doing things like you’re suggesting. That is absolutely going to be seen as a hostile act by the US, and they will manufacture consent for war.

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            The US spent 20 years in Afghanistan and fucking lost. We’re good at sinking carriers and blowing up tanks, but absolutely horrible at occupying territory.

            The kind of war the US is good at is the only kind that I want it to be good at. That is: disabling other war machines.

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              The US spent 20 years in Afghanistan and fucking lost.

              20 years is actually a long time to occupy something. We outlasted the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan by 12 years. And Afghanistan was right next to the USSR. But for us it is on the other side of the world.

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                It was a long occupation because it was a failure. Sucessful occupations stop being occupations within a few years.

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          Because we still need our own economy?

          If Canada 100% stops trading with the US it will wreck havoc on the economy. Sure, it’ll hurt the US too, and yes, it’s a fascist state at this point, but you still gotta live, eat, etc…

          • @chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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            Brother, your economy is getting gigafucked by Trump either way.

            You can slow-roll it, with the impact lasting decades, or the world can sign up for one shitty month that will result in Trump being neutered by Congressional Republicans who are terrified of 2026.

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              the world has too many right wing govs currently to handle any fallout form such efforts. they no doubt don’t see benefits; they just have no idea how to actually govern and are just in it for the cash.

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              Oh sure, I’d love to watch the entire world rallying together against trump.

              I’m just saying that you still have a country with people that need food on the table. That “shitty month” you’re talking about can and probably will mean the literal end for countless people and entire families.

              This is not a game with only 10 factors, it’s real life with thousands upon thousands of factors. It’s not that easy.

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              Brother, your economy is getting gigafucked by Trump either way.

              If someone shoots at you, you don’t shoot yourself in the foot to spite them. Canada is reliant on US trade. Cutting it off entirely would cause a serious economic shockwave that’s hard to understate.

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                The foot has already been shot, and trying to save it will end up costing the rest of the leg at best.

                Amputate the fucker to save the leg.

    • @HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      We’re doing both. Both BC and Ontario are cutting off American Booze. That’s gonna hurt American company’s hard.

      My hope if Trump keeps it up we cut off the power, and better yet the gas. Although that might make him try to invade or something.

      Up next will be him calling Canadians Nazis and trying to annex Quebec.

    • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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      Counter by decriminalizing everything to do with violations of US intellectual property. Ignore all US patents. Let Canadian drug companies make pharmaceuticals without having to pay for a US license. Let repair shops disable the DRM systems that prevent HP printers from accepting any old generic ink. Let Canadian broadcasters show US movies and TV shows without kicking back money to Hollywood. Let Canadian farmers repair their tractors without first kicking back money to John Deere. Allow anybody who wants to to jailbreak iPhones, and sell kits that allow other people to do that. Free Canadians from having to kick 30% of every purchase back to Apple in California.

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        I wish this comment (merc’s comment) would get bumped to the top of every post related to the tariffs. Tit for tat tariffs is stupid with predictable results. Strategic tariffs and other targeted mean of retaliation are better. Why is there only a 10% tariff on oil? Because the US needs Canada’s oil. You fuck with our economy we fuck with the resources we give you at a discounted rate. Look at CUSMA (hehe. or NAFTA or whatever broken trade agreement that was) and target the industries that the (US) wanted to protect.

        And for people using the tired fight analogies - just because someone tries to punch you in the face doesn’t mean you punch them back in the face. You have already been training to kick them in the fucking balls.

        Tit for tat tariffs is just political posturing for weak leadership.

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          Also, this is a fight against a much bigger opponent. Not only is the US population 10x bigger and their economy more than 10x bigger, that size means they have a lot more trade partners, whereas Canada is pretty isolated and trades mostly with the US.

          If you’re up against a much stronger opponent in a life-or-death fight, you don’t fight fair.

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        That was Cory Doctorow’s recent take on it too. Trump just threw out the trade agreement with Canada and Mexico he was so proud to say was his accomplishment, after renegotiating NAFTA. They really should say fine, stew in your own mess. Ignore patents, crank out cheap pharmaceuticals, forget about DRM. Nationalize US factories on their soil. Will hurt for a while until new trade is established, but there is the whole rest of the planet to trade with.

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          Nationalize US factories on their soil

          This is extreme and could warrant an invasion from the US. Wars have been fought for less. Look at what happened to Guatemala when they wanted to take back some of the half off their farmland owned by Chiquita.

          Canada is a mid-sized power but not really in a position to flaunt US power like that

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            This is an insane hypothetical but the worst thing is I can totally see Trump declaring a “military intervention into the Canadian comunist takeover of US interests and property” or something like that

          • @UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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            Canada should make nuclear weapons. Such is life in the shitter multiverse. I’d want my commune to have nukes to. Humans are psychotic hairless monkeys and are untrustworthy.

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            I know, it’s a nuclear option. Seriously shouldn’t put that card down right off. And yeah, hasn’t gone well for any central or south american government that the US has destabilized or overthrown due to some large corporation’s interests. But as all this garbage escalates, bringing up the possibility could make owners and shareholders squirm a bit. It hurts them financially, the only thing that would make them care. People who Trump might (might, small chance) listen to. But before that point? Those companies can produce all kinds of things. Doesn’t mean Canada or Mexico have to let those goods go out across their borders. Their trade agreement has been torn up by Trump again. And you know that bureaucracy is complicated, things get held up in customs sometimes, occasionally for very very long times. Paperwork gets lost… When companies here in the US are screaming about their supply lines breaking down again, now because of HIS stupid tariff war, there will be some negative political fallout. Trump’s ego and image are vulnerable things despite all the bluster. He won’t back down, but he could pivot to something else and let this nonsense drop.

          • Canada is part of Nato. Isn’t trump going to leave Nato? So that would mean all of Nato would be on Canada’s side. That is one hell of a leg to stand on.

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              Nato doesn’t have the navy to help Canada in a fight. Assuming America isn’t torn apart by a civil war as factions of the military defects and there’s a revolution in the streets. (60/40 at that point. Fighting a century old ally is a red line that would absolutley cause a civil war)

              the US navy would chuckle as the french and british and other relevant navies lie at the bottom of the atlantic. And at that point, Russia moves in and Europe is in a land war while the US decides to partner with Russia.

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                Britain and France also have thermonuclear weapons. Britain has Vanguard-class ballistic missile submarines and France has Triomphant class ballistic missile submarines, and both have nuclear capable fighters and bombers. If Europe is to fall - let the whole world fall with it.

              • I dunno, Invasion requires a ground war. If the US attacked thier ships, they can just essentially blockade the US at ports of entry. The US can’t invade all points of entry and ensure safe passage. One shoulder mounted missle can take care of that. The US just can’t win that exchange. It takes 100x the force to secure than to disrupt. And in general the Uzs doesn’t have the troops to protect all it’s assets overseas. Nato would cripple us in a week.

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                  this conversation was specifically about the US turning aggressive against Canada. the US turning on its allies and getting its global presence destroyed is one thing (I dont think that would happen, either). But to be clear, in this scenario we are talking about, If the US went aggressive against Canada, there is absolutely nothing NATO can do to help Canada except fingerwag, or nuke America.

                  And if Nuclear weapons were threatened, you could bet your ass the Mouth Foaming Z-Nazi party in Russia would rush to the aid of America, and declare that they were ready to invade and launch on the “Insane Europeans” to help the “Americans we have no problem with”

                  Russia wants to be hegemon of Eurasia, or at the very least Europe. If America wants to sacrifice it’s world influence and power to set up some kafkaesque one state entity across north America, Russia is more than happy to let them have it as long as they get their peice of the pie.

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          the rest of the world is too chicken shit. there is no rest of the world to trade with as the us cries to everyone that they need to embargo nation X.

      • katy ✨
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        Counter by giving Luigi Mangione diplomatic immunity.

        • @merc@sh.itjust.works
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          I’m pretty sure that the margins are slim enough in the house and senate that if Trump suggested military action against Canada, that his wings would be clipped.

  • @blady_blah@lemmy.world
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    So from the conservative viewpoint, what is the rationale for the tariffs? Are people really supposed to believe it has something to do with fentanyl? Like do conservatives actually believe that or is there some other narrative besides Donald Trump is looking to flex his power?

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      Back in 1890, there was no income tax. The federal government was funded through tariffs. With the upcoming rewrite of the tax code, the current administration needs new revenue, and trariffs are one of the few the president cab levy unilaterally.

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        Tariffs are essentially a shitty sales tax. I’ve read it described as a way to switch the US federal funding from I come tax to a hidden sales tax.

        The revenues will also be much much lower, which is why they need to eliminate every federal bureau.

    • @rabber@lemmy.ca
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      Yeah I’m confused because this is going to ruin American billionaires. Doesn’t maga worship billionaires?

      • @nomy@lemmy.zip
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        If you have the money to ride it out you can buy the country for pennies on the dollar.

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          I had to chuckle about this comment. I said that same thing in a rant to family and friends last night including using the words “for pennies on the dollar”

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      or is there some other narrative

      I believe a couple different things

      a) he’s intentionally weakening the US economy to both weaken establishment institutions and spread mass discontent. he wants people nice and angry and fearful for the future. so when he takes more extreme actions later on, it doesn’t seem as bad. also he’s probably preparing for some sort of riot movement that includes political violence in the next couple years. as the establishment gets weaker, he’ll be in a better position to essentially ignore them. so for example Supreme Court says something unconstitutional? Maybe he just ignores it and enforces his will regardless

      b) in the near future we may see a serious decoupling of the US economy from the world. maybe it’s due a planned war or some other circumstance and this is in preparation for that. tariffs tend to cut off the economy from the outside world. it’ll hurt less later on if we do some of it now

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      It’s not conservatism, it’s fascism. The strongman says jump and those loyal to him say “how high?” even when he’s being stupid. There is no analysis of Trump’s actions or why people go along with it beyond that.

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      For the most part it’s not getting the kind of attention you might expect, they are seeing this as all “part of the plan” and celebrating their great trade-warrior leader punishing the “bad guys” and the white house has deliberately withheld a LOT of the information about what’s going on. Most of the breaking stories we’ve gotten have been from foreign press. We didn’t even hear the tariff schedule until fucking France media issued stories.

      There is not going to be the satisfaction we all hope for, not until there’s literally a new dust-bowl as we get ravaged by a new great depression, which as bad as it could be, might be our only hope for a more balanced political system going forward. I hate that these clowns have made me into an accelerationist but here are.

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    Isn’t it great that a narcissistic jackass with no understanding of economics is Duning-Krogering all to death?

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    Tat, meet Tit.

    I order a decent amount of coffee from Canada and am pretty miffed about this on a personal level not to mention a philosophical one.

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    Grow a spine and make it 100 percent. The quicker trumps masters learn it wont work the better.

  • @SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
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    Someone explain why he is going after Canada? The US has benefitted from having the safest borders in the world and this dolt wants to jeopardize that.

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    As an American, I’m rooting for Canada.

    But this all feels very by design of Putin to fracture US alliances.

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      Yes, it’s Putin who’s totally controlling trump and making him do tarrifs. After all, Putin leads hamas, putin did 9/11, putin killed millions in Iraq, Putin killed millions the middle east, Putin’s funding UAE and Israeli genocides against Sudan and Palestine How peaceful the world would be without Putin /s

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          No he is dead on. The US has been shooting itself in the foot for decades in order to murder little brown kids.

          The only way your argument makes any sense is if Russia ordered Biden to commit genocide and throw the election. The DNC decided to run a geriatric against Trump. They are no smarter or better than the Republicans.

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            The DNC decided to run a geriatric against Trump.

            They didn’t decide shit. Only politicians decide whether they wish to run or not. The DNC literally does not have the power to chose who runs and who doesn’t. You know the DNC is not a person right? The DNC is literally made up of the primary delegates elected by the voters, who then choose a new executive committee every 4 years. Did you put yourself forward as a potential delegate? Stop blaming the DNC for the choices made by the voters.

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            I didn’t want to believe it, but .world and Reddit powermod user overlap must be real high. They all are like a hivemind of “making fun of tankie” aka the liberal version of “woke”

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              The mods are sure acting like reddit mods. They’re already the self-appointed arbiters of truth.

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                That too somewhat, but I ment more .world users, it’s the only place and the only type of users who actively fight on the wrong side and bring up Reddit arguments and the worst of reddit behaviour into Lemmy

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              So you believe the Democrats corruption and incompetence is natural and AIPAC has nothing to do with it. But the Republicans corruption is POOTIN!

              Meanwhile the first person Trump invites is Netanyahu.

              If someone said the same things about Israel controlling the US as you are saying about Russia, ignoring that the links to Russia are far far smaller, you would call them an anti Semite.

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          How is this whataboutism? They only pointed out that the US has a long history of doing shitty things without being controlled by some foreign actor. It’s perfectly plausible that Trump is doing shitty things because he thinks he will personally gain something out of it, without anyone pulling his strings. He just doesn’t care if the rest of the country goes up in flames.

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          It’s not whataboutism. He’s pointing out the empire has been going far longer than anything having to do with Trump. I’m apparently not allowed to discuss anything else about that here though, because the mods know the absolute truth about all things and will decide what ideas are allowed to be spoken.

    • @PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world
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      I honestly think Putin is too busy throwing millions of young citizens into his meat grinder to give a shit about the USA at this point.

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        You would be surprised what people have time to think about while browsing their phone on the throne.

        If you think Ukraine consumes 100% of his thoughts then you are not giving puttin enough credit. He isn’t infamous because he is dumb, he is infamous because he is cunning, underhanded, and brutal in what he does.

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      I just hope Canada, Europe and Mexico unite and start working closely together. Fuck the USA under Musk (trump). Together we are strong. Much stronger than individually.

      Feels bad to say but the USA haven’t been a reliable partner since the first time they elected Trump. Who knows what they’ll stand for in 4 years? A normal person or a complete lunatic that has already disassembled the legal structures few days after getting into office? Hard to know. Very unreliable and extremely concerning.

      I cant believe americans are letting this happen while sitting by idly.

      I can’t think of a single alliance in history that went from unbreakable to garbage within three weeks because of the whims of one person that should honestly be „dealt with“ before it’s too late.

      Writing this as a German with rather conservative views.

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      both Canadian and American retirement portfolios will suffer. i don’t know why anyone would root for such a thing at all

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      I’m so upset at my Canadian family members who supported Trump.

      I got an uncle who was constantly saying he supports trump cause he’ll “run the country the country like a business” - i don’t think either trump or him actually understand business all that well.

      I hope Canadian-European relations get stronger, and hopefully Canadian-American relations will be rebuilt once this fucker is gone

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        i’m still waiting for an explanation on how running anything like a business is objectively a good thing.

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        The “run government like a business” crowd gets to me. I’d like to see business run like a government. Owned and controlled by the workers.

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          It’s one of the dumbest perspectives I’ve heard that continues to irk me. Why the fuck would you want something that’s supposed to do X to do Y instead?

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        That’s the fallacy that I thought was learned back with Ross Perot. You don’t run a country like a business. It’s a government.

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          I’m pretty sure that people who say they want to “run the country like a business” just think it sounds good but haven’t put 2 braincells worth of thought into it. Businesses exist to make money. Government exists to serve citizens.

          Do you want firefighters showing up to your burning house and asking for a credit card before they put out the fire? Or maybe have the post office decide that it’s not profitable enough to service entire states? The whole idea is moronic.

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            Also the USPS is too busy delivering papers full of ads and junk mail, rather than investigating mail theft.

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            I mean, America already charge their citizens for healthcare, so they’re not that far off from your hypothetical

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            And it’s dumb, because, in the end, where is all that profit supposed to go?

            The answer obviously is, to improve the country and the quality of life of its citizens, so we’re back to square one anyway

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          How was it learned and when. Where I can lear more? Wikipedia didn’t have any clear answers

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        He will run the country like he does all of his businesses; into the ground.

        He even failed at running a casino. Except this time he will likely be burying thousands of Americans along with the country.

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        I’m up in the middle of nowhere Ontario in the north surrounded mostly by trees and lakes and not even remotely close to anything American … but yet I still have a few friends and family who love your dumb orange beanbag president.

        I don’t understand the pull that this idiot has on people or the millionaires and billionaires that pour their money into him for some god forsaken reason.

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          It is actually perfectly simple.

          Mr. Trump gives people easy answers to extremely complex problems, the fact that he is rich means that people just assume he is right about it.

          People want easy answers that don’t blame them, Trump has perfected the style of of talking where he is ambiguous enough that people fill in the blanks themselves.

          It is classic fascism speech.

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        Do you tell him that Trump has filed for bankruptcy six times with his companies? What does that say about his business acumen? How often has your uncle filed for bankruptcy?

        • @pivot_root@lemmy.world
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          That doesn’t work. The hardcore Trump supporters think bankruptcy is a genius life hack to get out from having to repay debts.

          They actually believe it’s smart to borrow money, hide them in other businesses and personal accounts, then declare bankruptcy to keep the money. To the rest of the world, that’s called “embezzlement.”

        • Brumefey
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          Those kind of people generally answer that he bankrupted « because of Biden ».

      • billwashere
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        Does your uncle realize trump was able to bankrupt a casino? Where they can can almost literally print money. And not just one, but three of them. This man is literally one of the most inept businessmen I have ever seen.

          • @anomnom@sh.itjust.works
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            But he looked smaaaat on the apprentice. That’s all the fucking morons who support him seem to remember about Trump.

          • billwashere
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            123 months ago

            Yep. Of course. And SO easily manipulated and too dumb to even realize it.

          • @ricketyrackets@lemmy.ml
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            This is the most accurate statement. There’s a reason why Trump wants Greenland, Canada, and Panama. Russia also wants all these. Wants free reign to move their boats and military through these areas and to be able to use the Panama Canal again.

            The more I see all the stuff going on here, the more I am coming to realize that the orange taintstainy is just a Putin muppet puppet.

            Everything this man does seems to appease Russia.

      • @whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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        My mum last night on text.

        “We’ll see what shithead Trump retaliates with tomorrow. The only way to stop the maniac is with a bullet!”

        “Have you noticed how shithead has not left the White House since he was sworn in?”

        “Trudeau is doing a great job!” (Referring to the presser)

        I’m glad I don’t have your family OP

        Edit - for the kids out there my mum is 74. She’s a baby boomer. Some of them are good people. They are not well off. I told my parents with the tariffs coming if they find themselves struggling to let me know because I will help in any way I can.

      • @spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        he supports trump cause he’ll “run the country the country like a business”

        THIS MOTHERFUCKER BANKRUPTED A CASINO.

        People say they want him to run the country like a business, but that man bankrupted a money printing machine, probably because he was doing all kinds of illegal shit and didn’t actually run his business like a business. Why would he run a money printing country any different than his money printing business.

        My dumbass uncle feels the same way as yours, and I have to bite my tongue so after to remind him that he and trump have something in common: they both embezzled from their company until it died.

      • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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        “Run the country like a business” is the dumbest thing ever. If the government was run like a business they’d raise taxes because what business doesn’t want to increase revenue? There would also be an open door immigration policy, because what business turns away potential customers?

        Personally I want the government run like a non-profit organization whose goal is to make my life better, but that’s just me.

  • @bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net
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    It’s like “ok fine, we won’t buy shit off eachother”

    Last I checked US has a bunch of stuff they try to sell.

  • @SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
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    Congrats Trump and his buddies, you managed to not only save Trudeau but made the nation rally behind him out of national pride and defense.