Summary

In a Fox News interview, Donald Trump argued that Ukraine should not have resisted Russia’s 2022 invasion, claiming Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy should have made a deal with Vladimir Putin.

Trump criticized Zelenskyy for choosing to fight, compared the military strength of Russia and Ukraine, and said he could have ended the war quickly through negotiations.

Trump’s stance contrasts with Joe Biden’s strong support for Ukraine, including aid and sanctions on Russia.

  • @takeda@lemm.ee
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    413 months ago

    So president of a nation that has the motto “give me liberty or give me death” is saying this.

    • Admiral Patrick
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      283 months ago

      The people who voted for him tend to prefer “Don’t tread on me” which makes it even more ironic.

      • @SinningStromgald@lemmy.world
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        23 months ago

        Any time I see those stickers, flags or license plates I have a deep urge to reenact the curb stomping scene from American History X using the person who has it/them.

      • TurboWafflz
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        153 months ago

        Well yeah, the full saying is “Don’t tread on me, tread on ukraine instead”. They just shortened it

  • @danc4498@lemmy.world
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    1213 months ago

    This is literally all the “anti war” arguments. George Washington should have just stopped resisting the red coats.

    • @EvilBit@lemmy.world
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      433 months ago

      Washington was part of a revolution. This is an invasion. More like Russia should have just let Napoleon have it.

        • @EvilBit@lemmy.world
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          203 months ago

          Fair enough. How about this?

          It’s like letting the SCARY EVIL (mysteriously suddenly nonexistent) IMMIGRANT MEXICAN CARAVAN INVADERS just come in and have the US.

            • @EvilBit@lemmy.world
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              93 months ago

              Obviously. That’s what brown people do, right? The clearly authoritative (checks notes) rich white Nazi on TV told me.

            • @thefartographer@lemm.ee
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              23 months ago

              Not if you eat them first!

              I wish I could eat my puppies and have their scruffy faces and waggy tails with me all the time! Petting them would be difficult…

                • @thefartographer@lemm.ee
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                  13 months ago

                  How to eat Your Dogs

                  By @danc4498@lemmy.world

                  1. Stop crying
                  2. Seriously, stop crying. If you don’t stop crying in gonna start crying
                  3. WHY ARE WE DOING THIS??? THEY’RE SO CUTE AND INNOCENT!!!
                  4. I’m vegan now

                  The end.

      • @Danquebec@sh.itjust.works
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        43 months ago

        It’s kind of a revolution though because it all started with Maydan and the ousting of Russian puppet Yanukovitch.

  • @FelixCress@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Donald Trump argued that Ukraine should not have resisted Russia’s 2022 invasion

    *Trump was an idiot as usual, arguing (…)

  • MonsterMonster
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    183 months ago

    This just confirms that Zelenskyy has a way bigger ball count than Trump by two.

  • @iowagneiss@midwest.social
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    63 months ago

    Well yeah, and now he’s taking this move from Putin’s playbook for Greenland. He’s at the “people in Greenland would rather be US citizens” stage. Putin did the same thing in the beginning when talking about the territories in Ukraine he wanted to take.

  • @psmgx@lemmy.world
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    323 months ago

    Honestly I’m more worried about the NATO 5% thing which is blatantly designed to fracture the alliance.

    The number was 2%, and many didn’t hit that. 5% is never going to happen and is going to be Trump’s cause to pull out, mark my words. Thankfully Congress put some stops in there, but doesn’t mean Trump can’t fuck things up bigly.

    Ukraine can schlump along with NATO sans USA, but no NATO and Ukraine is finished.

    • @Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world
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      13 months ago

      If European countries somehow manage 5 percent, it’s Europe that should step out of NATO. At this moment I am half convinced it’s better to have a strategic alliance with China than with Trump.

    • @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      3 months ago

      As a Canadian, good. I’ll worry a lot less about American invasion if we have our own separate NATO with blackjack and hookers.

  • @Wiz@midwest.social
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    43 months ago

    I’m kinda getting a “if you’re getting raped just lay back and take it” vibe from this.

  • @rational_lib@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    “They’re saying ‘the war is tomorrow’ – this causes panic on the market and elsewhere," Zelensky, Jan 2022 in response to US warnings of imminent Russian invasion.

    Zelensky didn’t “choose to fight” because Russia insisted there would be no fight right up until it crossed the border. It would’ve been considered a sneak attack but for the US telling everyone Russia was invading for a full month in advance. There was no choice offered to Zelensky and never has been since, unless you count Russia’s current stance of basically “give us all your weapons and maybe then we’ll negotiate”/

    • Rhaedas
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      53 months ago

      Our President. By election. He isn’t wanted by many, and is definitely no leader.

  • Th4tGuyII
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    153 months ago

    It’s easy to say don’t fight back when you’re not the one getting beaten up and mugged

  • @BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca
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    403 months ago

    Of course the convicted felon would say that Ukraine should just lie down and let Russia grab 'em by the country.