• @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I’m sure the 25th Infantry Division is thrilled to know they’ll be required to fight a jungle insurgency for an obsolete canal.

    /s

    • @JGrffn@lemmy.world
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      54 months ago

      Honestly, I’d prolly die day 1, but as a Honduran, I’d probably consider volunteering to go to Panama and fight you guys if you do end up sending armed forces to take the Canal. Fuck you guys…I mean, not you specifically, or anyone here for that matter, but… you know what I mean…

      • @Maggoty@lemmy.world
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        34 months ago

        It is actually not as useful. Panamax ships were getting made 1985. But then they figured out they could actually ship more with larger designs even going around the “long way”. So the route is longer but ships are faster and larger enough that the “bandwidth” is higher than going through the canal.

        The canal is also running out of water. It’s supplied by a lake at the highest point and every time they run the locks they lose water. They put some pumps in to bring water back up but it’s not enough to offset the loss.

      • @philpo@feddit.org
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        64 months ago

        It will be not even remotely useful then. It is a easy task for defending force/Guerilla force to disable the canal in a way that it can not be used for years,maybe even decades. Besides,none, absolutely none would insure ships going through it (ask the Egyptians during their various Suez crisis episodes).

        So it will be absolutely useless then.

  • @Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    234 months ago

    Isn’t Panama a tax haven? Does he really want to mess with a place where he probably has a ton of assets himself?

  • @Serinus@lemmy.world
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    104 months ago

    The point is to water down the idea of imperialism, which serves Russia and China.

    The same way they tried with impeachment over everything, the same way they’re watering down the concept of the pardon, the same way they watered down the term “coup”.

  • Flying Squid
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    264 months ago

    Wouldn’t be the first time the U.S. ignored a treaty with a land full of indigenous people…

      • jackeryjoo
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        134 months ago

        The rules to baseball seem to line up even:

        1. Someone tosses you a gift (Baseball)
        2. You smack the shit out of in a way that forces everyone to go looking for/chasing it as a distraction.
        3. Invade their bases, stealing whatever you can.
        4. Return home with your stolen bases without the other side being able to touch you in any way.
        5. Hailed as a hero.

        Which part of sportsball am I missing here.

  • @Gork@lemm.ee
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    124 months ago

    From a Risk/HoI4 point of view it makes sense, take all territory down to Panama so you can place all your army stacks there so the front is real small.

    But this would go as well as when Russia tried to invade it’s neighbor: not good at all.

  • @etuomaala@sopuli.xyz
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    134 months ago

    He wants isolationism in Ukraine and extreme interventionism in Panama… The thing they have in common? Imperialism. Imperialists help other imperialists, then go on to do a little imperialising of their own.

    • ✺roguetrick✺
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      -14 months ago

      Come-on now, imperialists were all about helping Ukraine too. Proxy wars with client states to deplete your enemies is pretty much imperial 101.

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        Who is invading whom, again? Russia are the imperialists here. They could leave at any time. Everything that is happening to Russia, they are doing to themselves. Nobody in Europe or the US gives a shit about taking control of Russia or its land. They just want Russia to stay the fuck on its side of the border.

        • ✺roguetrick✺
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          24 months ago

          I’m telling you your fundamental premise is flawed. Imperialism isn’t an ideology that finds allies in other empires just because they’re both imperial. Go on Reddit and look for comments about how funding Ukraine is the best military investment they could make if you don’t believe me. You’ve got imperialists on your side too ya know.

  • @cyd@lemmy.world
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    244 months ago

    Interesting how Latin American leaders are pushing back firmly against Trump’s trash talk, whereas Canada and Europe have been almost totally spineless.

    • @azimir@lemmy.ml
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      184 months ago

      The US has fucked up Central America for a century now. They know what it means to let us do what we like to enrich our corporations at their expense.

      Canada and Europe are still in denial at just how evil the US can be when we’re led by a corporate stooge and populist “fuck the world” attitudes.

      • IninewCrow
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        154 months ago

        Canadian here … most of Canada is pretty decent and this is coming from an indigenous Canadian.

        We have the same problem as the US where a small group of wealthy people and corporations basically own and control the country against the wishes of the people. We’re in the same situation as the Americans, ours just looks nicer but with less money.

  • @passivelnk@lemmy.world
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    204 months ago

    Ignore him. He is only trying to distract from his latest failures. Expect more distractions as the failures mount up.

  • @TachyonTele@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    Still, Trump said, that, once his second term is underway, “If the principles, both moral and legal, of this magnanimous gesture of giving are not followed, then we will demand that the Panama Canal be returned to the United States of America, in full, quickly and without question.”

    “I’m not going to stand for it,” Trump said. “So to the officials of Panama, please be guided accordingly.”

    Trump then took to his social media site to offer in response, “We’ll see about that!” He also posted a picture of a U.S. flag planted in the canal zone under the phrase, “Welcome to the United States Canal!”

    Yo what the fuck. So he said it on truth aocial, then said all of the above during a speech today, and then went back to his social network for a follow up.

    This entire thing is so fucked up.

    • @SarcasticMan@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      From Columbia, yes, the United States took the Central American portion of Columbia and made Panama. Then built the Canal and leased it from Panama for 100 years.

      Edit: there is a lot more to it but that’s the gist of it.

      • @AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
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        What?

        I mean wft are you talking about ?

        Well, yes, there’s definitely a hell of a lot more of a fuck about it.

        Good grief. Is this what the US education has become ?

        • @SarcasticMan@lemmy.world
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          44 months ago

          Grand Columbia, the Panama Canal project, a Bull Moose, $40 million, Manuel Amador, The Torrijos Carter Treaties, and a little bit of hyperbole.

          Your mom is what US education has come to.

  • Random_Character_A
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    274 months ago

    So he has foolish ideas about ending existing wars and plans to start a few new ones.

    He really can’t wait to go full Hitler.