Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers!
That’s actually a lower number than expected
Only 41%?
We still have work to do.
I don’t understand what’s shocking about that?
I would have called that predictable.
It seems pretty low
I doubt I’m “young” but I find it acceptable. I’m only shocked it doesn’t happen more. These people making insane amounts of money off the suffering of the working class have been getting away with too much for too long.
They make money by murdering people. Someone has to hold them to account since our justice system, which is bought and paid for by these same scumbags, surely won’t.
Only 41% ???
A lot of people have a belief that murder is bad and that if you want change you have to vote for it.
Ikr? Should be 95%
This isn’t a great poll. It’s 41% think it’s acceptable, 40% unacceptable, and 19% don’t care. In this context, I’d argue that not caring and accepting mean basically the same thing.
Yeah when it’s dead people, if you “don’t care” that’s kinda bad… or good in this case.
I wonder how the terrorism charge affects things. Are people going to stop saying they support him out of fear or disgust? Will other people (and/or the government) go after people that say they support him because they can claim they’re supporting a terrorist? Will people become less affected by the word “terrorist” because it’s being applied in this way?
Only 41%?
A further 19% were neutral.
“I have no strong feelings one way or the other.”
―Neutral President“If I don’t survive, tell my wife, hello.”
―Neutral President“All I know is my gut says maybe.”
―Neutral PresidentWhat makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or maybe you were just born with a heart full of neutrality!
I think of it this way. 41% are willing to say the killing was justified to a perfect stranger.
Guessing here, but an absolutely a MINIMUM of an additional 20% find it secretly acceptable.
After the shooting, hundreds [if not thousands] of doctors and nurses were posting stories about how insurance companies had literally killed people by withholding treatments.
If you live your life in a way that makes a lot of people want to kill you, you can’t be surprised when you get shot.
Same, this number seems way too low. Even from my skewed perspective of a “old guy” - fastly nearing 40.
Seems low. Like if they polled exclusively young conservatives or something.
I don’t think I’d be considered “young” anymore, but I don’t know if I’d say I support it.
Is the world better off without him? Yes.
Did he deserve to die? Yeah, probably.
Do I want to support vigilantism? Probably not.
Would it have been better if he had to deal with some terrible incurable and deadly disease? Yeah, if karma was real.
I feel the same way about Brian as I do about trump. Not sad or angry that they got shot, but I’m upset that someone shot at them. In a better world, we would be empowered enough that the answer to these moneygrubbing grift barons would come before violence, unfortunately, when you only react to violence, violence becomes the only answer.
For my FBI agent… I do not have plans to harm anyone, and this comment is an observation of the current political, social, and equality situation in the US, and not an advocation of violence.
I’m almost 40. And I support it.
All other avenues are closed. All the proper and acceptable forms of redress are either coopted or outright captured. Civil, political, or otherwise. Peaceful Protest is universally ignored because it lacks the implicit threat of violence that makes it effective elsewhere in the world.
“When the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich.” ~ Jean Jacques Rousseau
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Shocking that it’s so low
41% admitted to it.
Rather than “admitting”, I would think that most of these people are proud of it. If the insurance companies can kill people in large numbers (and they do), and somehow that’s OK (which it shouldn’t be), then that’s the new standard (sadly), and that’s life (or death, as the case may be).
41% of people they asked! Who knows what criteria they used to get their sample set, so the number may even be higher.
Also, do we know the specific wording? The wording of the questions around it? Those can have a significant impact on the answers.
Yes. This was a study by Emerson college. The methodology is linked in the article.
Of course the old people who are “fuck you I got mine” say it’s completely unacceptable LMAO
Yeah that is shocking. My guess is lots of people declined to say for obvious reasons. The number has to be closer to 80%
Neutrals are 19%, so even if we assume half of those are actually ok but didn’t say so, that’s still only 50,5% acceptance
Shocked its so low
I’m genuinely shocked… Maybe they didn’t want to go on record saying it because they were concerned about backlash.
Shit was rigged, you know they made the question something insane to get more people to not agree with the killing.
Do you think the actions of the killer of the United Healthcare CEO are acceptable or unacceptable?
I’ve seen worse phrasing for survey questions.
O damn that’s actually not worded to bad. I expected way worse than that.
Exactly. The question should have been, “did the CEO deserve to die?” It was likely, “was the killing acceptable?” It’s perfectly possible to believe the bastard had it coming without thinking one person has the right to be judge, jury, and executioner.
https://lemmy.world/comment/14023778
Apparently it was basically that, was it acceptable ot unacceptable.
People aren’t exactly gonna tell a random stranger and probable Fed that they support murder even if it’s really based
Why not? Feds support murder, certainly. Heck, the Constitution supports murder: it establishes an Army.
When they do it, not us peasants.
It’s not illegal to say you believe Brian Robert Thompson deserved to die. Hell, you could, perfectly legally, file paperwork to hold a parade in Luigi’s honor, right through the heart of DC. It’s illegal to make death threats, but it’s perfectly legal to express support for someone being killed.
With the incoming administration, I don’t want to be on record as saying that.
And yet… You just went on record saying it on a federated platform.
Not attached to my real name and not in an easily complied format. It’s possible that lemmy is a just a big honeypot, but I doubt it.
I don’t have a problem with speaking my mind in certain situations, but I’m not outing myself in some survey that counts for nothing.
Then they’ve already won.
Also, the executive branch does not make or enforce legislation.
Then they’ve already won.
Alternatively, keeping your real opinions close in a hostel climate means you have more freedom to act on it. There’s a reason that revolutions are planned out of sight of the authorities.
Also, the executive branch does not make or enforce legislation.
If only Trump knew that. Well, his advisors know that and packed the courts.
after the Nov 5th display of oligarch worshipping, maybe not as surprising it isn’t higher
Many things people find despicable are common place in the fog of war. I will never agree with gunning down a poor person no matter what they did, justice is served for the poor daily on a cold lead plate. For the 1%??? Who can we call when insurance kills our loved ones? When Dr’s make intentional mistakes and your loved one is dead? Can you call the police and expect them to go snorkeling to find evidence? Or can you maybe expect a call in a few weeks with a maybe update? We have seen how they respond when one of their masters is murdered. Until there is actual justice for all citizens, there will be no peace. Eat the rich.
The poor can’t even get justice wrenched from the poor, much less the rich.
I’m not prepared to say people can’t deserve being gunned down based on socioeconomic status, but I am all for the rich getting their fair share of the gunning down. Preventing active murder or grievous bodily harm, harming children, etc.
There is too much gunning down, and especially for unreasonable things, but I won’t lose sleep when those in power effecting and enforcing the injustice get theirs. The phrase “just desserts” exists for a reason.
It’s not shocking if you’ve had to deal with any sort of healthcare in this god forsaken shithole of a country.
Most young voters haven’t had to deal with it yet.
They have parents who have.
Are many young people (25 or younger) actually involved in their parents finances? How many parents would actually speak to their younger kids about their medical/health care issues?
20+ year olds helping their parents navigate the healthcare hellscape is something that is actually fairly common. My mother-in-law is a hospital social worker.
You should hope you never have to experience a parent suffer the health care system… mentally or physically. Assuming you’re not a monster you’d likely have a different opinion right now. It’s stupid to assume it’s like a parent telling a toddler how they file taxes…
I saw my mother constantly get denied health care because her insurance wouldn’t cover her arthritis which was considered a “pre-existing condition”.
I saw her suffer trying to get medication for migraines every month while Merck said nope.
I saw democrats get rid of preexisting conditions with passage of ACA. I saw republicans lie about ACA claiming it’s economic demise…
Demise never happened and republicans never once proposed anything better…
So naturally…
I saw my mom deny that any of this ever happened a few years later, that democrats never helped anyone and then she advocated for trump. I’ve seen her and others say democrats are the problem.
I’ve seen a lot of weird shit…
Young, like under 26? Like never having had to supply their own health insurance maybe?
Exactly this. I suspect this group is both young enough to not have to supply their own insurance, or at least young enough to not have faced significant health costs yet. Many people have not yet experienced just how trash the US healthcare system is.
