Summary

Donald Trump plans to discuss potentially ending childhood vaccination programs with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee for Health and Human Services.

Trump expressed openness to revisiting vaccine policies, citing concerns about autism rates, despite scientific consensus debunking links between vaccines and autism.

Critics warn reducing vaccinations could lead to outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles.

Kennedy, known for questioning vaccine safety, would oversee the CDC if confirmed.

Public health experts remain concerned about the implications.

  • /home/pineapplelover
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    15 months ago

    From what I learn from being alive, if people are required or forced to do something, they probably aren’t. Much like volunteering, most people don’t volunteer, heck, jury duty is required yet people don’t want to do it. Imagine if voting was required by law, how this would change things.

    • @Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world
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      35 months ago

      I’m not sure i understand what you’re getting at. By that logic, if voting was required, wouldn’t people vote even less?

  • @Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Thank you USA if you do this, it will most likely show our crazies here in Europe why exactly it is we do it.
    Of course I feel sorry for the children that will get needlessly sick.
    We may see Darwin awards on a national scale for the first 2nd time in history.
    Except this time is worse, because it’s parents killing off their innocent children through stupidity. But A kind of Darwin award nonetheless, since they are ending their genetic line.

  • @ThanksObama@sh.itjust.works
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    325 months ago

    Kill the department of education and force religious curriculum. This whitewashing will hide the history of slavery and make indentured servitude a normal way of life. If you tell them Jesus said it, they will believe it because they can’t read or just don’t care to take the time and do it. Religion is about blind faith in something that may or may not exist. It is a form of control over those with little to lose.

    Ban vaccines so people are sick and weak. Make all other health care unaffordable. Make them starve by inflating prices. Make their bodies weak to avoid physical conflict. They can’t hurt you when they are barely able move or care for themselves.

    End sex education and ban abortion. People are going to get sick and die constantly. You will have a population falloff preventing any increase to your wealth and power if you don’t force them to have kids faster to fill the labor pool.

    Keep their wages low so you can buy out their housing. Force them to be reliant on you to put a roof over their heads. Make them work multiple jobs at little pay just to afford this rental housing. Having no home is a real killer of hope.

    Pit them against each other. Crime is up, must be the illegal immigrants! They are taking all your jobs! That black guy down the street is going to steal you stuff and your women. That Jew works at the bank and is the reason you can’t get a raise or a loan. Your neighbor is your enemy and They will take everything you have if don’t have a gun to protect yourself.

    I’m could keep going down the rabbit hole, but why bother. These assholes want us back in 1800’s where the rich control and own everything.

    Don’t let them fool you. The rich control both parties in this country. It’s just that one side doesn’t give a fuck about being open about what they are doing or public perception.

    I am not condoning violence, but this is where we are going to end up shortly if the rich stay comfortable. Freedom isn’t free, and we are almost out of fight due to apathy. Average people care more about what some ass clown doing in their social feeds than seeing what is about to slap them right in the face.

  • @K3zi4@lemmy.world
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    305 months ago

    Pro-life crowd really trying to murder as many children as they can. That’s crazy. Good luck America.

  • @gift_of_gab@lemmy.world
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    295 months ago

    Wow, the measles are going to absolutely ruin America, and then spread to the world. One of my family members was ‘immune’ to the vaccine for it, and a doctor took my aunt aside and told her that basically any large crowd was a danger to my cousin. IE. “Go to the fair and there’s a chance he catches it.” Luckily he was able to finally reach the % required that from the vaccine but I think he was 16 before that happened.

    So many children are going to die. I wonder if people who didn’t vote in the US are starting to realise what they’ve done.

    • @CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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      175 months ago

      and then spread to the world

      But the rest of the world still has the vaccine programs. Very quickly Americans will require proof of vaccination before visiting other countries. While there might be an uptick in cases outside of the US, it will be nothing compared to within.

      • @gift_of_gab@lemmy.world
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        75 months ago

        We’re already having a problem with it in Canada, so I’m pretty damn nervous. I have family members who really rely on herd immunity.

        • @CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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          25 months ago

          Ya, I’m in Canada also. And unfortunately I know more than a couple of people who legit believe vaccines are a scam. But you can find idiots everywhere. I’m honestly not too worried about it here.

          • @gift_of_gab@lemmy.world
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            35 months ago

            The issue is, especially for measles, herd immunity. There are some major problems with measles in particular, such as:

            Measles is so contagious that one infected person can spread the respiratory virus to 90% of people in the same room—and it can live in the air for two hours. Often, an infected person doesn’t even know they have measles for several weeks.

            and

            Early symptoms include a fever, cough, runny nose, and red eyes, all of which could be overlooked as part of a common cold. A skin rash doesn’t typically appear until three to five days after the first symptoms appear. Someone with measles is contagious four days before the rash begins and four days after. There is no cure for measles, but if you’ve received the measles vaccine or are immune from a previous infection, consider yourself protected.

            Another major problem is…:

            Depending on the disease, herd immunity may begin to show beneficial effects when just 40% of the population is vaccinated. But for particularly contagious diseases, that threshold is far higher, exceeding 80%. The vaccination rate should be about 96% to achieve herd immunity for measles.

            So we’re going to have immune compromised people getting and then spreading measels. It hits children the hardest, and we’re going to start seeing absolutely heart-breaking headlines about children dying to a completely preventable illness.

            • @CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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              25 months ago

              Oh, I don’t disagree. Measles is horrible. It’s even been found to reset a person’s immune system. Like erased to newborn status.

              But what I mean about not being too worried, is that I have a modicum amount of faith in fellow Canadians. And once those insane policies start happening in the US, the entire rest of the world is going to place travel restrictions to/from the US.

              • @gift_of_gab@lemmy.world
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                25 months ago

                But what I mean about not being too worried, is that I have a modicum amount of faith in fellow Canadians.

                I’m glad you do, and I don’t. If, as polls show he should rather easily, Poilievre wins the next election we’ll have a Prime Minister who marched with the Convoy. In addition, the Federal Conservative party voted in 2022 to not recognize climate change. The idea he’ll place restrictions down is, to my mind, flat out wrong. I think he’ll bow and kowtow to whatever Trump says, and from the amount of ‘Make Canada Great Again’ hats (And the full on MAGA ones as well, which is… bizarre) I see throughout the interior of BC/Alberta, I think there’s some serious indicators the voters will, too. John Rustad almost beat the BC NDP. Polls show 43% of voters in Ontario plan to vote for Doug Ford again.

                I am glad you have faith in Canadians, I just don’t understand where that faith comes from.

                • @CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world
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                  15 months ago

                  I am glad you have faith in Canadians, I just don’t understand where that faith comes from.

                  Mostly from interacting quite a bit with Americans and seeing how much better Canada is by comparison. Don’t get me wrong, things are tending down, but we’ve got quite a ways to go before we get that bad.

  • @mightyfoolish@lemmy.world
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    65 months ago

    I guess Trump wants to eradicate the American population? How does this make them money?

    A new period of prohibition begins. How do I buy vaccines illegally?

    • @ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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      35 months ago

      Likely Elon Musk and some other people are covert eugenicists. A lot of eugenicists work with Lysenko-style “genetics”, and think generations surviving deadly diseases will bring forward a smarter and stronger humanity,

    • @hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      25 months ago

      Well, if America is no longer a superpower, then Putin and all his oligarchs buddies are planning on sweeping up the spoils of its ruin for themselves.

  • @mired_sight@lemmynsfw.com
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    125 months ago

    So, what do we DO? Quick vacations abroad to get vaccines and prevent our kids from dying? Or just accept life as long as possible before the 2027 polio outbreak causes a lovely descent into chaos?

    • @WhatSay@slrpnk.net
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      65 months ago

      Much like women seeking health care across state lines, it may be required to travel to another state for vaccinations, and depending on supply and cost, perhaps traveling to another country would be practical.

      As for outbreaks, either wear a mask and avoid crowds, or have a passport and find a country not embracing insanity.

      • @mired_sight@lemmynsfw.com
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        15 months ago

        … have a passport and find a country not embracing insanity.

        I can’t imagine any country is super excited for American refugees

        • @WhatSay@slrpnk.net
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          15 months ago

          Yeah, most of the world has decided they don’t like refugees. Best bet is probably to pretend to be a tourist.

  • @shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    145 months ago

    This has such “Doctor Strangelove” vibes, although the idiocy on display in that movie was meant to be satirical and absurd, yet here we are

  • @sunbytes@lemmy.world
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    25 months ago

    Suddenly it’s an elective procedure and no longer covered by insurance.

    Though I guess it may get more expensive for insurers to cover the unvaccinated so the market might actually win out with that one…

  • Sabre363
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    35 months ago

    Ah yes, the ol’ classic vaccination / autism correlation. It makes perfect sense, I mean I’m autistic and then I got vaccinated. Definitely a connection here, let’s ban the 'tism and solve all the problems.