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Are there actually 15K trans soldiers in the army, or is this just another number that he pulled out of his ass?
Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population.[178][179] According to 2014 estimates from the Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity Law and Public Policy, despite the ban on military service, about 21.4% of the total transgender population in the US is estimated to have served in the military. In May 2014, an estimated 15,500 transgender individuals served on active duty or in the Guard or Reserve forces.[22] Wikipedia
So it’s a real number he just thinks military=army like the fake loser he is.
Apparently I vastly underestimated how many people are in the US military in general.
Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population
That also surprises me.
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My first inclination would not be to join an organization that has a long and notorious history of testosterone fuelled bro culture.
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What’s even crazier is that, in the modern US military, less than 1% of the population serves in the military.
There are also more NYPD cops than there are active duty Coast Guard personnel.
Don’t folks get gender affirming / plastic surgery for free or something? I think I heard it was covered because it lets military surgeons get practice for when they go work for private sector after their bit
The military and the VA offer gender affirming care, and what they offer varies.
For instance (I’m going off memory for active duty, I got out in 2017), if you’re active duty, I believe they’ll pay for everything so long as you lay out in your Transition Plan everything you want covered and your commanding officer approves it. You need “approval” to ensure that your absence during medical recovery won’t hinder mission readiness, so basically, if you’re about to be deployed in a month for 6 months, and you’re supposed to have gender affirming surgery tomorrow with a multi-month recovery, your surgery will likely be postponed.
The VA, which is for veterans, covers a majority of gender affirming care, but they aren’t legally allowed to cover everything. GRS/SRS is the big on, the military will cover that I believe, but the VA cannot and will not.
With Trump coming in, I have a feeling this is all going to go away, and they’re going to use a similar approach as the Federal Minimum Drinking Age Act to basically make LGBTQ+ healthcare illegal via withholding federal funding from those states who try to continue after a federal ban. “The states can choose their
drinking agegender affirming care, but those who don’t follow the federal guidelines will lose access to XYZ federal funding.”
100 % doubt this happens… Oh the fear porn.
Why do you think it won’t happen?
He’s enjoyed thirty years of relative peace and serenity in a country that doesn’t usually bomb itself that often.
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He did it during his first administration. I was planning on joining the Navy and becoming a doctor at the time.
It’ll happen. Three minutes later, they’ll discover what a bad idea it is to kick people out of the army in the middle of a recruiting shortage. Nothing will be learned and they’ll skip along to the next bad idea.
Would love to see him personally try to kick even one of them out of anything. Pathetic piece of shit.
They can form their own Blackwater and charge gazilion dollars to operate in the same places as they were before
It’s always about turning public money into private profit.
You joke but that’s why they want to fuck up the military. PMCs lobby too and they’re willing to do everything in a war from flying the planes to being grunts on the line.
You think with the recruiting problems we have you’d do your best to retain the people we have.
If you can get through basic and fulfill your tasks you should be able to be in the military. If the government doesn’t want to pay for “gender affirming care” that’s fine. But these people should still be allowed in the military.
Also, what kind of discharge are these people getting? Honorable, General, Dishonorable?
Elsewhere somebody said Medical, don’t have a source myself.
It said it in this article.
This is the internet, I read headlines and comment sections, not articles! /s
I mean I support reducing the army. Can we kick out all cis men next?
Only if the base assumption is that they’re all gay, and they only get kicked out if they tell us they’re straight, otherwise we aren’t asking.
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I can only assume the “they” you are referring to is Orange Hitler and all his cronies.
This is the same shit we did with black people and then the gays until acceptance of those groups was so widespread that US fascists could no longer successfully target them.
If you learned history you would know this is just the next group right wing movements are scapegoating instead of offering any policy whatsoever that improves people’s lives.
Thanks for being the example of how ignorance fosters fascist beleifs, fear, and hatered, of people who are different than you.
Blackjack and hookers.
Just going to completely wreck US cybersecurity defense.
Next they’ll go after the furries and take all the navy’s data centers offline
Coding socks are the new contraband.
I love/hate that I get all these references lol
It’s part of the plan. fucking traitor.
It has long been said that if all the furries and catgirls disappeared it would cause the internet to collapse overnight.
What’s a catgirl? Is there a signup for that?
No only a test and you just passed. Congrats
Cat ears and tail will be emailed to you. Congratulations recruit. Don’t ask how we know where you live :-P.
Pfft, that shits been contracted out for years (honestly understandable, hard to have consistent network defense with a constantly rotating (deploying) workforce of active duty military)
They don’t exactly deploy cyber security soldiers to do combat patrols. They’re doing the same job whether they’re in D.C. or Berlin.
It’s like half and half. Some is contracted out, but there are definitely active duty service members doing cyber security work as well.
Lots of IT still in the military also some of the “contract out” is done by reservist and is tied to their military contract. Those still in military are your tier 3 IT and admin.
How many times in our history are Americans going to get duped into hating people they never even interact with and know nothing about?
None of these people know trans people. These morons have just been conditioned to hate them regardless of not even knowing them. It’s pathetic. They’ve never been hurt, or even inconvenienced by a trans person. Bigot fucks.
Welcome to the legion, 15,000 new anons.
Ahh, yes. Purging the armed forces. Nothing sinister about that. Just restoring the professional military service.
I mean outside of America we are still going to all let this happen. We are all marching straight into WW3 like the “this is fine” meme.
Should we survive as a species I look forward to 50 years from now where America adopts strong anti-facism laws like Germany has.
Question is, who is the good guy in this new world we are entering?
FWIW as a Canadian we are so fucked. America is going to come knocking for our resources soon and we won’t be able to say no.
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Head between my legs and pray tbh lol
I kinda look at it less like WW2 repeat but the fall of Rome.
Either way we are screwed though. The emperor has no clothes.
You may want to consider getting involved with a local mutual aid group. The connections you make now will likely pay off in the future.
Oh I’m not worried about me or mine. I’m confident I can keep 1 step ahead of this madness.
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Deep breaths and take things a day at a time. People have been through far worse even today. I was joking with my GF last night who is South African. This ain’t nothing compared to what she has been through as a Zulu woman.
I know it’s not the best answer for you, but it is what it is. You either endure or you don’t. Me? I choose to endure.
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Ain’t no death squads showing up in Canada anytime soon and if they do in my neighborhood I would personally fuck them up.
I hope he chokes on a Happy Meal.
The happiest meal
Oh no please don’t send highly trained members of our military home where they can protect and train their fellow Americans!
I’m under the impression it would devastate the livelihood of those people.
Unfortunately this is probably true, I’m sure they will find a way to take away their veteran’s benefits as well. :(
Looks like well-regulated militias are back on the menu
Cool unsourced/debunked fabrication from a literal tabloid, took me all of two minutes to find this, after looking for an actual source, when the OP-linked article didn’t have one:
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-reported-transgender-military-plan-called-out-charity-1991052
Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. For shame.
Oh well newsweek says that the biggest pack of liars the world has ever seen says they won’t do it. Nothing to worry about folks!
Trump’s transition team denied that any decisions on the issue had been made. Spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt told Newsweek that the unnamed sources “are speculating and have no idea what they are actually talking about.”
“No decisions on this issue have been made. No policy should ever be deemed official unless it comes directly from President Trump or his authorized spokespeople,” she said.
Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug. For shame.
Is it confirmation bias when I know Trump and his team are gigantic liars so I’m not quite going to rule out this very-on-brand policy that they are pre-denying until he’s in office and it doesn’t happen?
MTG believes they are going to do it according to the same article, but I acknowledge she’s got the brainpower of a squirrel, so I’m not putting much stock in that.
Is it confirmation bias when I know Trump and his team are gigantic liars so I
believe every negative thing you hear about him/them without the slightest bit of scrutiny/skepticism?
Yes.
Dunno man, pattern seeking is the one thing we’re really good at. All aspects of it are on brand - including the likelihood that saying today that there are no plans to do so is absolutely unrelated to whether there are plans to do so.
I find the claim he will do this to be absolutely no less credible than the claim he won’t.
But, it doesn’t matter what I believe or what they say right now, he’s not in office. If he thinks it makes him more powerful to do so, he’ll do it when he gets in, regardless of what they are saying now and regardless of whether they are lying currently. I have no doubt of that.
It’s not pattern recognition when the event within the ‘recognized pattern’ is made up, lmao.
The pattern is that it fits in perfectly with Trumps overall positioning and past policies, and lying about it fits past behavior also.
This argument matters not at all though, as I said before. I can’t even run back here to claim victory if he does it (not that I would anyhow) because:
If he thinks it makes him more powerful to do so, he’ll do it when he gets in, regardless of what they are saying now and regardless of whether they are lying currently. I have no doubt of that.
Well I hope you’re right. After reading your comment I went to check sources for this story on Ground News. The original source sense to be a paywalled article in The Times which I can’t read. There are many other sources but they’re not what you’d call top tier, and they may all be feeding off each other (see screenshot below). So yes, there seems to be hope that this is false.
