• @ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.netOP
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    I am enjoying the popcorn as conservatives gaslight and pretend like it’s nothing, as if they weren’t standing behind it the whole fucking time.

    • @msage@programming.dev
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      But people lap it up, like they believe it.

      How are we as species supposed to act towards such individuals?

    • @EnderWiggin@lemmy.world
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      No, they’ll vote for Trump anyway because “genocide”. As if Trump doesn’t actually want to wipe Palestine clean off the map, whereas Biden doesn’t actually support that at all. People’s priorities are confusing as hell.

    • @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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      I suspect it’s a good thing. Conservatives don’t search for things that discredit their views. And I doubt their media is playing this up as anything that deserves attention. It’s probably mentioned as a thing to be ignored. I have no factual basis for my suspicions. I could be completely wrong.

      • Conservatives don’t search for things that discredit their view.

        I think you’re right here but I think we can all be very much like that. Using trump and conservatives as a reference to what we all do, no one Googles “is trump bad.” No, we already know the answer to what we think about that. Instead, we google something like “trump is the best” which (along with our personalised algorithm, designed to tell us what we want to hear so we keep engaged) tells us all about how trump is the best.

        I think one thing that might help anyone who wants to de-program trumpers, along with the parts that are their own fault, they genuinely are victims of the algorithm they’re trapped in. I mean, we all are but right wingers, being right wingers, rarely have the self awareness needed to adjust for it. Theyre amongst the groups most disenfranchised and exploited by these things. It doesn’t absolve them of blame but, imo, its more complicated than a lot of people make out.

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          we google something like “trump is the best” which (along with our personalised algorithm, designed to tell us what we want to hear so we keep engaged) tells us all about how trump is the best.

          Nobody googles anything like that, and googling “is x good/bad?” Isn’t really how you use Google unless you’re researching products or something. This is a lazy attempt at an example.

          It seems to me that, if we’re using web searches as an indicator, that those on the left have no problem earnestly researching the answers to questions like “Is transgender healthcare harmful to children?”, or “what are the pros and cons of privatizing x?”, where some of the answers might not perfectly validate our existing worldview, but we still walk away with a nuanced opinion based on what we learned.

          Conservatives on the other hand would never even consider asking questions like “are they cutting little boys dicks off because they like the color pink?” or “are half of all murders really committed by Black people?”, they will just believe it in their heart of hearts because they saw memes about it on Truth Social.

          In fact, if they did muster the willpower to type such a query into Google, every single article that doesn’t validate them would be declared some sort of leftist hoax, and Google would be blamed as another woke tech company deliberately serving content that challenges a right wing view.

          These people are completely brainwashed, and it is no surprise that they heavily trend Christian, since Christianity as an ethos demands that you be able to resist asking questions critical of God, as certain questions are an insult to God. It’s rather trivial to exploit this vulnerability in critical thinking, which is why so many Conservatives seem to have no line between their religious beliefs and their political beliefs, and both sets of beliefs end up being completely fucking unhinged and filled to the brim with magical thinking.

      • @nutsack@lemmy.world
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        my conservative friends and family from the garbage can i grew up in very much like this sort of thing, and probably see it as a justification to vote for sexual dingus trump.

        im hoping it will force more democrat voters to go outside.

    • @samus12345@lemmy.world
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      Good thing. Despite how it sometimes feels, most Americans aren’t hateful pieces of shit and don’t support this crap. It’s just hard to get them to go out and vote.

      • @eldavi@lemmy.ml
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        It’s just hard to get them to go out and vote.

        it would be a lot easier if the dnc didn’t suppress popular candidates in favor of candidates with decades long histories of conservative bona fides.

  • @sucricdrawkcab@lemmy.world
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    People don’t think it’s possible to do all of this. After reading the entire thing, it’s 100% possible, but I don’t think people are seeing this as the end of democracy in the U.S.

    Women, minorities, public education, the environment, work reform, social services and even protesting are straight up done. Sounds extreme, but I’m not seeing how you vote yourself out of this after firing everyone and replacing them with people only loyal to the president.

  • @LostWanderer@lemmynsfw.com
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    This is good news, while it wouldn’t be enough to sway diehards, it will sway the undecided who don’t want to see the nation become a shell of its former self. Conservatives who are trying to distance themselves from their most desired plan will make mistakes and screw up enough to hopefully get caught out. Here’s hoping at least.

    • @SOB_Van_Owen@lemm.ee
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      This is important. I notice a big push here in Trump country to distance him from it. Lots of ardent followers posting sharing stuff that suggests Project 2025 is nothing more than a “conservative wish list” that comes out every cycle. Nothing to see here! And that it has nothing to do with official policy. I suppose we’re to ignore the recent egregious decisions handed down by SCOTUS and Trump himself repeatedly saying he’d be a dictator on day 1 -specifically to enact these goals?

    • @muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world
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      Well technically it iant nor can the plan claim affiliation or support for any candidate. But its pretry clear to anyone with a brain that it does align very well with his ideology.

      • @bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I’m not really sure what point you’re trying to make. Do you think I am not aware of the heritage Foundation? Are you just trying to chime in?

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            1110 months ago

            That’s fair. Let’s label it Trump for now, and slot in the next conservative as needed.

          • @nomous@lemmy.world
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            It’s a concerted effort spanning almost 70 years and I agree, they’re not going away at all.

            It’s a long listen but worth checking out How Conservatism Won by Robert Evans. He lays out in a clear concise way “how a consortium of rich failsons got together to fund a network of right wing think tanks and shift American culture in a fun new direction. (note: it was not actually fun at all).”

            The rich hated FDRs New Deal and immediately set about to undo all the trade, tax, and housing policies, labor and consumer rights, everything, he’d done. They very much want a return to the gilded age with themselves as the robber barons and gentry. They’ve been very successful and those think tanks are now pipelines used to funnel ideological purists into powerful positions like our current Supreme Court.

            I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities. The police will not protect us, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety. We only have soap, ballot, bullet, and jury boxes and obviously the soapbox has limited impact.

            Iran was a secular, liberal state until almost 1980 when they (mostly legitimately) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.

            edit: tl;dr the shadowy cabals the rightwing says are behind everything is classic projection again because they’re controlled by shadowy cabals of rich people and they’re winning

            • @beetlejuice0001@lemmy.zip
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              It is more effective to educate conservatives on why white supremacy is wrong. Buying a few little pew pews isn’t going to stop them. Maybe buy you some time to slip out the back.

              Perhaps demand they craft legislation on media outlets. Have you noticed the History channel plays nothing about history anymore and is all reality tv?

              • @nomous@lemmy.world
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                Of course we should try to reach out and educate, the soap box and the ballot box are always the first and second choices; but you sound like someone with nothing to lose. What happens when the attempt at “education” fails? When the attempt to speak civilly is met with red-faced screaming? When you try to use reason and they use an armed mob.

                I wonder if anyone just tried educating Hitler about how antisemitism is wrong.

                I’m in a deep red state. I have no interest in letting a caravan of MAGAts come into the singular liberal, “crime-infested blue city” within 200 miles to Rittenhouse some “groomers” because their guy gets to be dictator “for a day.”

                • @beetlejuice0001@lemmy.zip
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                  Their hate is fueled by manufactured propaganda, an outrage machine controlled by billionaires. The media needs to be regulated immediately and some Monopolies need to be broken up. There is no better time than now

  • katy ✨
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    there’s a reason why republicans and the corporate media are desperate to try and push president biden out of the race.

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      As opposed to everyone else, who hope dearly that the 25th will be invoked if he’s elected. Though I doubt anyone wanted the first woman president to get the job without being elected, it will warm my heart if Hillary Clinton is alive to see the first woman president and it isn’t a Clinton.

  • @ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lol
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    Turns out the Heritage Foundation and their allies being so blatant with their garbage political policy MIGHT be bad for winning elections