Ahead of the European election, striking data shows where Gen Z and millennials’ allegiances lie.
Far-right parties are surging across Europe — and young voters are buying in.
Many parties with anti-immigrant agendas are even seeing support from first-time young voters in the upcoming June 6-9 European Parliament election.
In Belgium, France, Portugal, Germany and Finland, younger voters are backing anti-immigration and anti-establishment parties in numbers equal to and even exceeding older voters, analyses of recent elections and research of young people’s political preferences suggest.
In the Netherlands, Geert Wilders’ anti-immigration far-right Freedom Party won the 2023 election on a campaign that tied affordable housing to restrictions on immigration — a focus that struck a chord with young voters. In Portugal, too, the far-right party Chega, which means “enough” in Portuguese, drew on young people’s frustration with the housing crisis, among other quality-of-life concerns.
The analysis also points to a split: While young women often reported support for the Greens and other left-leaning parties, anti-migration parties did particularly well among young men. (Though there are some exceptions. See France, below, for example.)
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Which god?
Because I’ve been cutting people’s hearts out on top of a pyramid to appease Huitzilopochtli and make sure the corn keeps growing every day for years now.
Corn’s still growing.
You’re welcome.
The only evil are ones are tricked by a false god. Your worthless fight will end in loneliness and self hatred.
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This level of delusion is usually reserved for people who huff aerosols.
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If only we had a few more human sacrifices to appease God we might be more worthy.
1000 BC called, they want their delusion back.
Edit: Oh god, your post history lmao. The narcissist who fucks prostitutes, cheats on his spouses, steals money from taxpayers, lies every day. THAT is your sAviOr? You think Jesus would have a good opinion of Trump, the false prophet?
Trust me you don’t want a conservative government. They won’t fix the problem they’ll just seek to line their own pockets and then by doing so make everything worse.
This is not about conservatives, many of the countries listed here currently have or recently had conservative governments. The far right is a whole other level.
Imagine letting conservatives ruin your economy and thinking “I need a more extreme version of this.”
Propaganda is a hell of a drug…
Conservatives make the world worse, they get booted out and liberals fail to fix it, they get booted out and then people look for a “strong man” who can cut through red tape and fix things once and for all.
The far right embodies that third person. An extra bonus of a far right rule is the Overton window lurches so far to the right that the conservatives can pretend to be centrist and the liberals pretend to be left-wing.
Yeah to anyone honest about what’s happening, it looks more like liberals fuck everything up, conservatives half ass repair stuff to some degree, liberals get back in and fuck it up even worse, conservatives make more half assed repairs but are unwilling to do what needs to be done because of liberal feel good fake altruism bullshit self serving sentiment. That’s when the nasty fuckers of the far right start getting support of the young.
Whereas my perspective is that conservatives fuck things up then it swings left(ish) who can’t deliver recover enough before the conservatives get to fuck stuff up again while the media is heavily favouring the conservatives (fueling your narrative) and on the cycle goes. So the back and forth and left creeping to the middle (where they see success) leaves the far right as an alternative - and current rhetoric makes it less of an acceptable outlier.
Yeah that’s your perspective, bur it’s fantasy. Numbers dont lie but liberals do.
some younger people like me are not allowed to vote because of bipartisan policies and laws
quit blaming us for everybody refusing to vote better people in
not our fault y’all refuse to vote better
100% the fault of anyone that does not Vote.
100% the fault of a political class that puts the needs of donors ahead of all else. Fascism has always been the result of neoliberalism. It’s absolutely predictable. The best and the worst ballot choices that most people have all lead to the rise of fascism.
those whom you call “political class”, are in fact the representatives of the very wealthy, are only there as lots of Eligible Voters sat out prior elections, and the “political class”'s owners paid for the propaganda that convinced them to do so. Exact same bullshit they’ve sold to you in fact.
I’m not sure why you assume I don’t know who’s pulling the strings. However, the impact of those who don’t vote is dwarfed by the impact of those who vote for the wrong candidates. I know it’s liberal orthodoxy to write off a ton of voters completely, but I think that’s a mistake.
If I have to blame voters for the predicament we’re in now, I would have to land on Biden voters in the 2020 primary. It’s hard to blame them though without blaming corporate mainstream media that lied constantly about electability in the general.
As for why Trump became president in 2016, I think the failures of the Obama presidency are pretty relevant. Obama ran as a reformer in 2008, and voters turned out for him in massive numbers. Then Obama betrayed them by being the most milquetoast establishment President possible.
There is plenty of blame to go around, but none of that interests me. What I care about is, what strategies might dig us out of this mess. Voters shaming is not a viable strategy, and it’s more likely to drive voters away than help.
The other big thing that voter shamers don’t get is that we don’t just need people to show up at the polls. Democrats tend to write off the youth vote because they vote in lower numbers than other demographics. However, when it comes to phone banking, knocking on doors, or marching in the streets, youth far outstrip other demographics. Enthusiasm is critical, and voter shaming destroys it. Whatever grassroots movement was behind Biden is utterly dead, and Zionist Biden is responsible.
I tore your entire bullshit position to shreds, so you whined a lot about unrelated crap in an effort to distract from your having no leg to stand on.
That’s an interesting take. Let me know if anyone lets you know that they decided to vote Biden because of voter shaming. I won’t hold my breath
Only showing up to vote every four years, and assuming we won’t slide into fascism because you pushed the right button, is silly. On that we agree.
Not using the power of the ballot box in addition to all the other much more difficult / impactful things which are required for real change is much, much worse. It’s like, “Oh no the wrong people are in charge! This is very unfair. Better just give up and let them do whatever then.”
The rise of fascism is always the result of a long strong of causes. In a democracy the final cause in that chain will always be voters, but I think it’s intellectually lazy to assume that makes the failure of voters “worse”.
Most of the voters who don’t show up are just disinterested in politics for a variety of reasons. I don’t think there area many that say “Oh, no, a problem! Better ignore it”!
Blaming voters might be somehow cathartic, but the voters you’re blaming aren’t going to care. That’s the way to go if you care more about assigning blame than actually addressing the problems.
Lots more elections than every four! Every Election, no excuses!
Bellow I’ve filtered out the primaries, which often have issues not related to party as well, and excludes local elections.
link at end:
“2023 – November (Constitutional)
Registered Voters
17,759,273
Voting Age Population (VAP)
21,925,627
Percentage of VAP Registered
81.00%
Turnout
2,563,469
Percent of Turnout to Registered
14.43%
Percent of Turnout to VAP
11.69%
2022 – November (Gubernatorial)
Registered Voters
17,672,143
Voting Age Population (VAP)
21,866,700
Percentage of VAP Registered
80.82%
Turnout
8,102,908
Percent of Turnout to Registered
45.85%
Percent of Turnout to VAP
37.06%
2021 - November (Constitutional)
Registered Voters
16,968,756
Voting Age Population (VAP)
21,866,700
Percentage of VAP Registered
77.60%
Turnout
1,485,066
Percent of Turnout to Registered
8.75%
Percent of Turnout to VAP
6.79%
2020 – November (Presidential)
Registered Voters
16,955,519
Voting Age Population (VAP)
21,596,071
Percentage of VAP Registered
78.51%
Turnout
11,315,056
Percent of Turnout to Registered
66.73%
Percent of Turnout to VAP
52.39” - https://www.sos.state.tx.us/elections/historical/70-92.shtml
That sounds pretty shit. I’m pretty ignorant of EU voting laws, what kind of laws prevent young folks from voting? Is it a high voting age or are there even more restrictions?
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It sounds like you’re an American citizen. As such you’re really not very relevant in the European election…
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who else can win the White House if not Biden.
I’d vote for him.
Yup, everyone who doesn’t like your president or your team is a horrible no good far right troll. It’s amazing how well one can do when you get paid by Soros and Koch!
You had me in the first half 😅
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Oh no! you left yourself verbal wiggle room. I guess some of them are nice people?
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Oh I’m fine. I’m just giving this as much effort as you guys right now. And no this isn’t an alt nor do I have a hexbear account. I just don’t think we should vote for someone whose an accessory to Genocide. It’s not a complex position.
Then who should we vote for? Someone is going to be president and literally the only choices are Dictator Trump and Status Quo Biden…
I don’t know or care. RFK is polling surprisingly well but he’s also RFK. So maybe we don’t vote for president this year. Maybe this year we protest the system instead and challenge the idea that this is a legitimate way to represent us.
So what, you will instead vote for the party that check notes promises to crush pro-Palestine protests and deport any foreign student participating, and writes down “finish them” on missiles used to kill Palestinians? OK.
No I’ll write you in. Don’t worry, just your Lemmy name.
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No. You just used sweeping generalizations with the barest of a fig cover. Even now. They’re “exceptions” meaning you think your post is the rule. So you’re just trying to split technical hairs so you don’t have to face criticism.
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That is the very definition of a sweeping generalization. For example, how do you quantify “a lot”? And yeah that would be convenient for you wouldn’t it? Getting called on your attempt to demonize independents by someone who fit your profile. Alas, no.
Soros and Koch
Ohh, good for my bingo card
You know what the Kochs do right? And who promised to help that industry if they give them 1 billion?
I’m aware. Please sit and think about the comment you responded to though. Are there really Soros bucks? Does it follow that Koch bucks are likely either? Or maybe I’m just poking fun at the fact that the right accuses me of being a Soros funded Communist and you guys accuse me of voting for Trump
In the EU.
In America, it’s starkly divided by generational lines, with the remainder being down to race, education, wealth and urbanness, which actually makes me think what’s going on in Europe is a somewhat unrelated phenomenon.
In America, it’s starkly divided by generational lines,
Not as much as the “lol boomers” crowd would have you believe.
There’s a lot more <50 at Trump’s rallies than >60.
Same with the Jan6 traitors. Lots of them were <40
America has a Boomergeoisie.
As for traitors:
https://time.com/5931320/businesses-boycotted-capitol-riots/
https://www.inc.com/inc-staff/capitol-insurrection-business-owners.html
From your first link:
Across the country, small business owners who attended the pro-Trump event are facing backlash
That gives me some small measure of hope for the future.
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Jan 6 guys are nothing like a representative sample. Trailer park grandpa couldn’t show up to that for multiple reasons. Even then, I’d guess a median age of 45 just based on the videos. The shaman guy was like 32 and he was kind of a baby.
I know less about normal Trump rallies, but I don’t really need to because there’s actual polling to rely on. MAGA youth exist, but they’re underrepresented and even more heavily poor, white, uneducated and rural. Meanwhile, in Europe, there’s basically no correlation. Young and old alike support AfD about the same.
What we have on this continent is definitely fascism, fueled by pure, barely-directed hate and hostile to democracy. In Europe, I wonder if it’s more of a reversion to Japan-like policy, which might have been more natural for these ancient kingdoms all along. That’s just a wild guess, but I hope so, because I like democracy.
You need to leave your basement
Ooh, brilliant counterargument. /s
No, you really need to get out and look around.
Your debate skills are breathtaking. Say something about cheeto dust or mountain dew next. Then I’ll start asking how many teeth you have and what your family tree is shaped like. This is an excellent use of both our time. /s
I’m not debating. I’m telling you you need to travel and look around.
To the surprise of no one. This is the result of neolibs that keep electing “moderates” which never fix any issues.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
In the Netherlands, Geert Wilders’ anti-immigration far-right Freedom Party won the 2023 election on a campaign that tied affordable housing to restrictions on immigration — a focus that struck a chord with young voters.
In Portugal, too, the far-right party Chega, which means “enough” in Portuguese, drew on young people’s frustration with the housing crisis, among other quality-of-life concerns.
In 2022, while Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni’s far-right Brothers of Italy received votes from every age bracket, data suggested the young favored left-wing parties more.
Bardella’s strong presence on TikTok might have something to do with it: Pollsters found that about one-third of young people said they rely on the app to follow the election campaign.
The survey results also don’t automatically translate into electoral success, as the researchers estimated just 30 percent of young people would end up casting a ballot.
“Flemish Interest is very well aware of this, and explicitly targets young women in its campaign to adjust its image,” said Peter Van Aelst, a professor at the University of Antwerp.
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Chimps off the old bloc.
No shit the youth are voting authoritarian, we’ve already seen how powerful and impactful TikTok Algorithms have been.
This is the result of the left focusing so hard on identity politics and immigration. The right didn’t have to do shit… it was inevitable.
Identity politics surely is to blame for the rise of fascism. Just like the last time in the years 1915-1945.
You are almost quoting the fascist playbook line of “look what you made me do”.
I’m right, but you don’t have to like it, I’m okay with that.
They’re kinda right, but not in the way they think they are. It’s not that the left has being advocating for minority rights that is the problem, it’s that they have been focusing on that while dropping policies to support the working class that is the issue. The fact that getting more women and black people on to corporate boards has been more of a focus than affordable housing has been slowly driving alienation from mainstream left wing parties.
In much of Europe the left have been victims of former success. Many of the (former) leftist political parties and their constituents have foregone leftist policies because said policies gave them the social mobility to move into a higher strata of society.
In effect it is successful class war waged by the capitalist class, who have dismantled their greatest political opposition and employed a tactic of divide and conquer for the lump sum of petty cash.
Note, I do not say that having a fair and egalitarian society isn’t a part of socialist ideology, but focusing on cultural symbolics instead of improving material conditions is just bourgeoisie propaganda.
When people find themselves in stress, they will always vote conservative to ensure their own survival. Right now, many young people can’t afford housing, they have to spend more time working than living. This is not surprising.
Which makes no fucking sense since conservatives just make those issues worse.
Reactionary viewpoints are a result of crumbling and decaying societies. They cling to what once was, rather than trying to progress onward to Socialism.
Reactionaries are wrong, of course, but the origin of these viewpoints currently is from Capitalism’s failures.
It makes all the sense in the world. Horrible people want to be in power. So they market themselves as the just the strong man you need to deal with these problems. No problems? well then they just create them. There isn’t anything stopping them from just lying about where the problems came from, so it turns into a self licking ice cream cone.
So they market themselves as the just the strong man you need to deal with these problems
Without ever specifying how they’re planning on fixing those problems.
And more often than not, the problems they claim to be able to deal with were not anything people were thinking about until that same candidate told them they should be concerned about it.
Yup
in stress, they will always vote conservative to ensure their own survival
That isn’t a safe bet, though.
The cornerstone of the conservative M-O is withdrawal of services and opportunities for the 99%. Sure, this sticks it to immigrants, but only because it shafts everyone but the rich.
And when those services go away - healthcare, unemployment protection, programmes sponsoring training so people can get back to paying tax sooner - they never come back under this administration. It’s left as the sole focus of the fools who follow them and have to stoch a country back together out of the unmaintained underpowered mess of a system the elitist scum left them with.
Of course it’s not a safe bet, that’s why it’s based in fear. That’s how it’s always been.
What the elites didn’t sell to themselves for a song at any rate. That’s the other part of it, they raid the government for parts and then turn it into a profit service no matter how many people they end up killing.
Probably because things are getting worse but liberal parties are more concerned with keeping up the status quo than actually improving things, so you get a lot of apathy and people taking a gamble which will not pan out well.
Gen Z/Millennials/Boomers are all terms to describe generations specifically in just America. Why are they being used when this article is talking about the EU?
As an European I can confirm that we use those too.
I’m curious what’s you’re from that leads you to think that’s the case.
The name baby boomer is literally from the baby boom after the US won WW2
Prominent gender gaps in the results, which is entirely unsurprising (men much more likely to vote far right than women). I think the left-right breakdown could be more explicit too, as in many cases the left wing votes are being split between a bunch of parties, with the right wing settling on only one or two. That’s still in an issue in countries that use FPTP voting systems, of course.
It’s like people forgot that 4chan and the like exist.
