• @SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee
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    161 year ago

    Its not that he thinks that this is normal behaviour, its that so many Americans think that this is normal behaviour.

  • @BigMacHole@lemm.ee
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    651 year ago

    The ONLY ONLY ONLY way to Prevent this is to make sure TEENAGE DELIVERY DRIVERS shoot at every home they pull up in before getting out!

  • Optional
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    411 year ago

    Tennessee again. Goddamn, Tennessee what the living fuck is happening over there?

  • TWeaK
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    341 year ago

    Trespassing isn’t established until you’ve been told to leave and don’t do so (hence why we have no trespassing signs), the shooter had no right to fire shots at this guy. He should go straight to prison.

    • FuglyDuck
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      101 year ago

      this is not entirely accurate.

      If you know you’re somewhere you don’t belong, you’re trespassing. For example, you can’t chill in some random backyard until someone comes out to tell you otherwise.

      property owners (residential or otherwise) don’t really want to ugly-up their properties with “no trespassing” signage that doesn’t usually work and really only encourages teens to see what’s on the other side of the fence.

    • neuropean
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      91 year ago

      Does that mean he could have taken shots if he posted a no trespassing sign?

      • FuglyDuck
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        71 year ago

        apparently not. I looked it up out of curiosity:

        the requirements for lethal force:

        • Person not engaged in unlawful activity;
        • Person in a place they have a legal right to be;
        • Reasonable belief of imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury;
        • The danger creating the belief of imminent death or serious bodily injury is real, or honestly believed to be real at the time;
        • The belief is founded on reasonable grounds.

        this would fail the last one.

      • @PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world
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        He can shoot at people because he was sold a gun and anyone who has a gun can shoot at anybody they decide. What we’re actually waiting to learn is “Will this former responsible gun owner get away with shooting at people?”.

        If the answer is “yes” then other gun owners are going to do the same thing because they want to shoot at people.

        If the answer is “no because he didn’t have a ‘no trespassing’ sign” then gun owners are going to buy “no trespassing” signs and then shoot at people, because they want to shoot at people.

      • @catloaf@lemm.ee
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        41 year ago

        I don’t think a good-faith misdelivery is trespassing, so no. Unless you want any delivery to be done by throwing the box from the curb.

    • Shit I delivery drove for 10yr, and I definitely got paid with a couple boxes of JHPs in that time. A lot more pizza drivers are strapped than you think and some take alternate forms of payment (commonly weed, but bullets and other trades are certainly not unheard of.)

  • @BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    251 year ago

    My friend tells me that her in-laws in rural Missouri are cutting holes into the walls to hide guns so they are prepared for attacks from antifa.

  • @Leviathan@lemmy.world
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    371 year ago

    I get angry enough that a cop pulling me over for speeding carries a gun, or that every emergency call needs to be responded to by jackbooted, militarized thugs when less than 15% ever involve violence. I can’t imagine living in a country where every scared little baby had easy access to firearms.

  • @gentooer@programming.dev
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    351 year ago

    Not an American, but I really don’t get these stories. It has to be legal to enter somebody’s driveway, right? How else are you supposed to ring someone’s doorbell?

    • Liz
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      351 year ago

      It absolutely is and the people who shoot at others for showing up on their property are 100% paranoid assholes watching too much Fox News. Hell, you can even legally camp on private property as long as you’re not within view of the house. I don’t suggest doing that, on account of the crazies.

      • EzTerry
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        61 year ago

        Many EU countries have freedom to roam laws to allow access accross undeveloped private property, this includes as you said camping as long as you leave the land as found.

        In the US i know of no state allowing such, and the ability of the person traversing the land to sue the owner means the default is no treasspassing signs everywhere. this isnt to say if you were unsure if the land was private and there is no sign/indicator of tresspassing you coulding walk through but that isnt strictly giving you the right to access the land

        in western States quite a bit of land is federally owned and behaves more like right to roam, this has made odd cases there is a cheker board patern between two federal land areas and private property and what to do when a hunter says steps over the corner of the private properties between the two public access areas.

      • @LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
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        101 year ago

        Wait a minute tell me about this law that says Americans are allowed to camp on private property: like they can do that without permission of the property owner? as long as not within view of the house?