The scenes were emblematic of the crisis gripping the small, Oregon mountain town of Grants Pass, where a fierce fight over park space has become a battleground for a much larger, national debate on homelessness that has reached the U.S. Supreme Court.
The town’s case, set to be heard April 22, has broad implications for how not only Grants Pass, but communities nationwide address homelessness, including whether they can fine or jail people for camping in public. It has made the town of 40,000 the unlikely face of the nation’s homelessness crisis, and further fueled the debate over how to deal with it.
“I certainly wish this wasn’t what my town was known for,” Mayor Sara Bristol told The Associated Press last month. “It’s not the reason why I became mayor. And yet it has dominated every single thing that I’ve done for the last 3 1/2 years.”
Officials across the political spectrum — from Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom in California, which has nearly 30% of the nation’s homeless population, to a group of 22 conservative-led states — have filed briefs in the case, saying lower court rulings have hamstrung their ability to deal with encampments.
I can’t speak for Oregon, but here in California the problem is that we have a LOT of beds that are not being used. And cities and states can’t force people into shelter and care if the area doesn’t have enough beds for everyone that is unhoused.
The ask is to be able to shelter some people with the beds that are available. Right now CA is forced to wait until it could theoretically give every unhoused person a shelter bed at once.
That’s one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard so I 100% believe the government would be stuck on exactly that.
Is that some sort of misguided antidiscrimination law?
Theft, overcrowding and assault are some reasons I’ve heard many homeless people say in CA as to the reason why they avoid shelters unless it becomes worse outside than inside.
If the shelters aren’t being used then maybe ask why they aren’t being used instead of trying to force people into them.
Safety, hygiene, and convenience are often reasons why many people opt for a tent over the local shelter.
So it seems like a better idea then would be highly subsidized tiny houses/apartments.
They want safety? How entitled! /$
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“Just stop being poor!” - that town
More likely, “go be poor somewhere else!”
I mean, for real. How long before the cattle cars come?
Guy at my old work was always saying we need to do this.
Plans like that always work until the metaphorical cattle car comes for them.
I genuinely believe these places should just give homeless people 1-way tickets to Hawaii.
Make it their problem.
Just reach into your wallet and pull out the money is not rocket science
Personally, if I was homeless and found out I’m now in debt from the greedy-fuckers who put me there…
I would just take the law into my own hands at that point.
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Often, at the surface all you’ll see is someone being homeless through their own actions. Take a peak a little closer and you’ll see that we all failed them collectively. The biggest difference I’ve noticed between housed and unhoused isn’t the amount of trauma/violence/abuse they’ve suffered its the amount of support around them that made the difference in life trajectory.
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Regardless of how they hit there, how is it useful for anyone to attempt to fine someone for having nothing? Seems like just a pretense to jail people
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By their own fault? Do they just super enjoy living outside?
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With this lineup, the SC is going to make execution the punishment for not having gainful employment. Only half sarcastic.
Sounds like we’re running out of orphans for the orphan-crushing machine.
Oh no they still work. They just can’t afford to live in a building.
We keep eroding the social support network and complain about the homeless problem.
We keep changing the environment and complain about the new weather.
This all ends… so well.
Yall call this civilization? What a joke.
You know, after Putin will be finally sent to Hauge(or die) Russia can solve its demographic problem(you know, hundreds of thousands people becoming fertilizer) by simply making flying to Russia free.
Or that is just another stupid idea and we should focus on education, healthcare, pensions, welfare and public transport instead. This should be even easier and have bigger results.
It’s getting to the point that you can’t sleep anywhere legally unless you’re paying someone for the space you’re occupying. Most of the cities near me have destroyed the woods that homeless people lived in, forcing them to move and leaving behind a weird ass looking stand of trees.
I used to work with homeless people and as much as being outside sucks, shelters can be worse. We had people in their 70s who went to shelters and slept on the floor, their heads almost touching their neighbors. They had their meds stolen and had to sleep on top of their belongings to keep them safe. A lot of people chose to sleep outside in the summer because they felt safer.
It’s getting to the point that you can’t sleep anywhere legally unless you’re paying someone for the space you’re occupying.
This is the point of enclosure and it’s been true for hundreds of years now. This is the concept the stole the planet from the people.
Clearly, we need more space tourism.
Fines will teach those people who have no money to get more money.
have filed briefs in the case, saying lower court rulings have hamstrung their ability to deal with encampments.
Think it’s more about this, than actually collecting fines from homeless people that have no money.
Yes, let’s waste money on fining people, who will tell you they have nothing, but it’s no problem, because you will get them sooner or later once you have their address… Oh.
Fine them for having nothing, then jail them for not paying fines. Now you have an address for them. QED
I didn’t think they’d actually start setting up Sanctuary Districts in 2024, but it looks like that’s their eventual goal…
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Bell_Riots
Too bad we don’t have a Gabriel Bell.
Be the change you want to see in the world.
Maybe our version is Gabby Belle.
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Does anyone want lab-grown Aperture Science lemons?