Has anyone bought from here before? Looking to upgrade my NAS drives.
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters More Letters NAS Network-Attached Storage RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage SSD Solid State Drive mass storage
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What’s the catch? Is there a catch?
These are used drives that have about 35K hours (4 years) of power on time.
Good quality drives to be sure, but maybe not as reliable now as they once were.It just means they’ve survived the first part of the bathtub curve. To me that’s a bonus.
That’s why you buy extras and put them in RAID or zfs!
Refurbished drive. I’ve had 4 white label drives running for a number of years without issue, planning on eventually getting 12 more and maxing out my servers.
Unfortunately that’s years down the line :(2nd catch, behind the power on time: PWDIS drives: if you’re not using them somewhere with sata 3.2/3.3, you need to use an adapter for the power plug, or some tape, to block pins 1-3 (3.3v) as supplying it to these causes them to reset. Might be worth doing the taping anyway, if you’re using an enclosure or cage (where you can’t use the adapters)
They are also enterprise drives which consume slightly more power and more importantly generate more noise/clicking sounds on average when compared to a consumer drive. Depending on where you were planning to install them, it might not be the best option.
I have a similar one, different seller and possibly submodel, but also a refurb HGST 12T enterprise drive. It sounds like I left a soda on my desk most of the time, subtly popping and ticking.
They generate a LOT of noise. Not a dealbreaker for most but something to be aware of for sure.
They’re generally highly regarded.
Censorship of words makes me not know which definition of regarded you are using.
Dude what are you even trying to say here
Check @ArbiterXero@lemmy.world 's explanation
I too like posting cryptic, non-detailed complaints with minimal to no explanation, logic, or rationale for the express intent to sow confusion and chaos while simultaneously standing for nothing
/s
On Reddit, wallstreetbets used to call everything “retarded” and they’ve stopped and moved to “regarded” as a way of “almost” saying an offensive word.
Thanks for clearing up the confusion
That’s regarded
It was bad, and the funny part is that they were using Retarded as a slur too much and had it taken away after complaints from civil rights watch groups, as disabilities are a protected class, but the proponents would try to claim they were using it as a term of endearment in the ultimate bad faith argument.
The /s actually makes this one more sincere.
Oh like the stonk apes
Ah hell. For that price I grabbed 4. I think the same source is selling on newegg as well for a similar price.
yes
Looks juicy
“Seller refurbished” just means they’re used and were tested, right?
Maybe new pulls.
It means they put a new sticker over the old one, and they don’t rattle when you shake them.
Most likely, yes
A hell of a deal
Would love to buy some, but shipping to EU is too expensive.
I’ve used vykingship, a shipping forwarder, before to ship from US to EU. it basically gives you an us address to ship things to and they will ship it to you.
I’ve found their rates are usually cheaper than direct from the store.
Of course customs and duty charges will still apply.
I had a similar issue with instruments once, because Thomann is cheaper by a factor of 10 to USA equivalents.
Thomann crew checking in! Bought my first “real” guitar from them and she’s still my favourite despite being given a Les Paul by Bowling For Soup this year. I really should play that baby
Bowling For Soup have been cool for so long, very underappreciated.
I really wish we had a service like this on Europe.
I know they ship to Europe. But shipping costs are prohibitive for small buys.
Plus tax. Finland is stopping everything from outside EU and demanding proof that tax is paid. So I have to look at the prices with postage and add 24%.
And here I thought Germany had it bad with 19%…
Look on eBay, there are oftentimes some from server farm providers like hetzner
Depressingly, that’s around 2x the cost/Tb.
Cries in Middle East.
Interest to know this too, deal appears too good…
If the deal is too good to be true, it probably is.
6gb sas is regularly found for 30-40$. 80$ for 12gb sounds reasonnable. And you’ll save 50% power per GB
I dunno, 80 for a Hitachi seems a little low, but not too good.
Not sure I’d buy one used tho.
Approx 35k power on hours. Tested with 0 errors, 0 bad sectors, 0 defects. SMART details intact.
That’s about 4 years of power on time. Considering they’re enterprise grade equipment, they should still be good for many years to come, but it is worth taking into consideration.
I’ve bought from these guys before, packaging was super professional. Card board box with special designed drive holders made of foam; each drive is also individually packed with anti-static bags and silica packs.
Highly recommend.
All my server drives come to me with these many hours and truck on for many years.
This is pretty standard for enterprise equipments — comes with some amount of years of warranty, enterprises depreciate the cost over that many years and sell them as/before the warranty expires to get whatever value they can get (as far as books concerned, they’re already depreciated to $0 anyway).
Came here to ask about the hours. Some quick searching looked like 5 years is an average time to failure, but that might have been for lower-grade hardware?
Is this a normal sound for it? https://sndup.net/bpx9/
Pretty sure that’s the usual preventive wear clicking sound that’s just part of newer drives’ design…?
I’ve bought a fair amount of drives from them and have had no issues, just today I got in some seagate exos 2x18 drives from them and their packaging was as professional ever.
Ooh! Thanks for the tip! Been looking for some affordable drives for my next system.
I bought a LFF Dell Poweredge back in the fall, and have been waiting on a good deal for 3.5" disks. My current machine is a SFF HP Proliant, and I hate how much a 2.5" drive with good capacity costs.
How noisy are these? I have a pair of shucked WD drives that should be equivalent to reds, and they’re pretty noisy in my otherwise quiet home office. Given they’re only 8TB, upgrading them to SSDs for full silence is something in considering as soon as the pricing and availability permits.
It looks like NAND and therefore SSD pricing is trending up currently due to some supply limitations. If you want to get some large drives it might be best to try to do it soon, or be prepared for a wait/inflated pricing.
As far as I know there is only one SSD model that meets my criteria (Samsung 870 QVO 8TB), and at $520 right now so I’ve decided it’s best to wait. I’d like it to be quieter but not so badly as to spend $1k on it (need two).
I bought wd red pros since people said they were quiet. I think they were comparing them to these type of enterprise drives because they are absolutely not quiet when seeking. I wouldn’t mind drives like this if they were in a closet or away from me but my nas is in my office/guest bedroom. I’ve since replaced the pros with red plus and they are MUCH quieter.
I’ve since replaced the pros with red plus and they are MUCH quieter.
They’re also slower.
Doesn’t bother me much since I’m only using it for media.
They are very noisy. Lots of clicking and whirring. Enterprise drives are not the same as consumer drives. As others have said this is a great price but I would not recommend using them in a room you are trying to focus in.
