Can you point me to the harmful nature of them?

Hormone blockers are generally used because it’s far easier for people to transition if they haven’t already been smacked around by puberty and it ends up giving a healthier result.

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/24/texas-transgender-kids-transition-related-health-care/

(I KNOW, right? “Texas Tribune?”)

"Studies have found that transgender youth who take puberty blockers are significantly less likely to experience lifelong suicidal ideation than those who want the care and don’t get it. And studies show psychological trauma is reduced and life satisfaction increases when people who want transition-related hormone therapy get it.

Major medical associations support transition-related care. They include the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Medical Association, the Endocrine Society, the World Medical Association and the World Professional Association for Transgender Health."

Or probably more accurately if you look at right wing scandals, people that think similarly to them but are brave enough to live their truth and not try to hide behind a bible and pay their reality away.

Conservatives are cowards. They mainline fear 24/7, they feel list without it.

GnRH was discovered in 1971, and has been available since the '80s. We have a pretty good idea of their long term effects. There could be more about effects on transgender youth in particular, but everything done so far shows it’s safe.

It’s been around since the 80s, we already know long term outcomes.

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I have to imagine that blocking puberty has some crazy side effects.

Sort of the joke. Puberty is what has the crazy side effects.

Discovered in 1971, and introduced for medical use in the 1980s.

“Where can I find studies about it”?

Have you tried perhaps, idk, a search engine? How do I have a feeling that even if I were to show you the science which agrees that they are safe medications, you’d have an “argument” in which you criticise the info without even reading it.

People perfectly well know how to look for things online, and when they pretend not to… well, it smells fishy. Fishy, like sealions.

How long has this medical technology been in use and where can I find studies about it?

Decades. It was there when I was a kid, so like 20 years ago. And it wasn’t new medical technology at the time.

It has very few side effects and is completely reversible.

blocking puberty has some crazy side effects.

I’m a provider at a children’s hospital. I specialize in orthopedics and rehabilitation, so I mostly deal with the musculoskeletal system. I have colleagues who would be able to provide a much better and more in depth explanation, but I will do my best.

Even in orthopedics “hormone blockers” are used fairly frequently. For example the same drugs that people use to transition are utilized to moderate the epiphyseal fusion of growth plates. Puberty is also frequently delayed to moderate the hormone levels of juvenile cancer patients. Or even more increasingly common, to halt the symptoms of precocious puberty in young women.

The vast majority of juveniles prescribed hormones to delay puberty are for non gender affirming care like cancer. The problem with moderating what medical providers can and can’t treat is that you are assuming you know more about medicine than the a person who went to medical school.

You may be trying to protect kids, but what ends up happening is an interference of medical care, and usually not the type you intended. If hormone drugs become more monitored, providers may be hesitant, or have a more difficult brine prescribing it.

The dangers of delaying puberty are very small, when you stop the prescription puberty begins again. Usually the only side effect is excessive growth due to a delay if epiphyseal fusion. In regards to gender affirming care, I will remind people that their providers are looking at total outcomes. Meaning they are factoring in things like the higher potentiality of self harm and suicide.

It reduces bone density. Not to unhealthy levels in teens, but there are concerns the lower baseline will increase osteoporosis risk when the patients get to old age.

They can also only be used for a couple of years. Some non-binary people want to be on them permanently, but doctors won’t prescribe that. Some kids want more time to decide, and unfortunately there isn’t anything safe to use through the full teenage years.

Precocious puberty has been a thing forever and the first medications for delaying it by regulating hormones have been around since the 1980s. I think that should be the jumping off point for research. However afaik the same sorts of drugs are also commonly used to treat cancer in adults.

Here is an article about their use in treating trans people with links to various studies https://transfemscience.org/articles/puberty-blockers/

The side effects and risks are worth it when you only get one shot at puberty. If you don’t transition as a pre-pubescent teenager, you will never “pass” as well, especially as a transwoman.

A really good example of how successful you can be if you’re early is Corey Maison. There are cases of transition regret of course, but they’re still a very small percentage of the total, and that percentage is reduced by puberty blockers giving young people more time to figure out themselves and their own bodies, and to make the choice that’s right for them.

There’s some studies that found that bone density could be affected, but considering the suicide rate of trans people I’m going to say that’s a tiny sacrifice for the assurance that you can have the body your brain wants to be in.

40 years of Hollyweird / Music Industry / Olympics trainer agents pumping their youngest stars full of this shit in order to squeeze an extra year or two of revenue out of them? Fine. Cool. Good. No problems detected.

Some trans youth have a legitimate medical need for deferring puberty, while they come to terms with their gender and sexuality? Fuck you. Prohibited. Go directly to jail.

They’re going to have to pull an Alabama and do some matching legal and mental gymnastics.

You see, every other problem in the UK has been solved, so now all they have left is fucking with people who just want to be happy in their own body.

It’s specifically for gender identity clinics so only applies to trans kids

It will be specific to diagnosis codes.

Basically non-existant but of course when it does happen it gets repeated over and over again. The main reason why anybody detransitions is because of how they get treated during their transition.

I’m assuming you’re asking in good faith. I found this type of question to be especially controversial due to the legislation against gender-affirming care, especially puberty blockers. In researching further:

As others have stated, cases where permanent gender-affirming care was given, such as HRT (hormone therapy) and GRS (genital reconfiguration surgery), instances of regret are incredibly rare, and almost always predicated by lack of support for the individual. They are far outnumbered by instances of trans people undergoing puberty incompatible with their gender, which is itself damaging and irreversible.

The type of care discussed in this article, GnRH (puberty blockers), has been shown to not have long term consequences, and is only used to delay puberty and the potential long term effects, giving them enough time to make an informed decision about their transition. From the Mayo Clinic:

GnRH analogues don’t cause permanent physical changes. Instead, they pause puberty. That offers a chance to explore gender identity. It also gives youth and their families time to plan for the psychological, medical, developmental, social and legal issues that may lie ahead…

When a person stops taking GnRH analogues, puberty starts again.

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I was going to downvote and move on, but instead…

I have family and friends that are trans, so I have been able to kind of follow their outcomes over the years.

1. Human gender identity and sexuality does seem to fluctuate somewhat, but it doesn’t seem to me to be random. Some people fully identify as one gender but like to perform as a different one. Other people don’t vary at all. In cases where people “change their mind”, it’s usually because they get discouraged about being able to successfully transition, or they experience severe harassment/workplace discrimination. Just in my anecdotal experience, it’s never because they just randomly decide they no longer want to be trans

2. No one is getting permanent gender affirmation treatment until they are old enough to know and have been in discussions with doctors for years. I’m sure there are exceptions where some poor 5 year olds parent(s) treated them without medical oversight but it’s not common and no one wants this.

Extremely uncommon. But on the off chance it happens, they just stop taking the puberty blockers and everything proceeds as normal.

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So you don’t have to wonder anymore: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexual#Regrets_and_detransitions

“Cult of trans”

Who’s the leader? What’s the goal?

Also, citing the Torygraph rag instead of actual sources isn’t a good look.

You know puberty blockers aren’t permanent right? Stop taking them, and then puberty happens. But once you’ve gone through puberty, there’s no undoing that. That’s where the harm is, in forcing someone to undergo changes they know they don’t want.

I don’t know what I want for dinner and that never stopped me from identifying myself.

Do you think it would be important to understand the clinical requirements, outcomes, and medical consensus of the previous policy vs a blanket ban before endorsing a ban? Isn’t the point of blockers to slow development so informed consent about transitioning can be made?

You’re not going to get any sympathy here, but for what it’s worth I agree with you. Some children may be entirely convinced that they know exactly what they want, and two years later they may find out they were completely wrong. I’m a trans ally, but I think children should require the explicit informed consent of their parents for any and all medical treatments including hormone therapy.

this is why i haven’t taken my kid to get his supposed ‘broken leg’ fixed. sorry kiddo but i have thoroughly inspected it and determined that the bone angles are within tolerance