Russia attacking NATO would give a significant chunk of the globe the green light to obliterate Putin.
This is likely the route to ending the war on Ukraine with the lowest loss of human life.
So… Go on Putin, try it.
That would actually be 4d chess. Encourage Russia to invade and let Poland crush it
The problem with this is that Russia will rather take whole world down with it than admit defeat. They don’t obey the rules (and laws) of war.
Anymore. The Russians themselves did for a time. Case in point the times a russian actively prevented WW3 or rather a nuclear exchange.
That’s a fairy tale - just another piece of Russian propaganda you seem to be unaware of.
So you are telling me Arkhipov and Petrov where just propaganda figures to promote the “good will” of the soviet union?
You can do that all day long, without hard facts I will not believe you, because both cases have been documented extensively and thoroughly. Ukrainian propaganda is doing a bad job, grasping at straws these days. I’m still 100% behind Ukraine, but negating everything and trying to paint anyone who isn’t in line as the bad guy is straight out of the soviet and russian handbooks.
Painting Russia as the rational side who actually wants peace and the evil West as the warmongers (not just for this war) is a fairy tale and one of the main taking points of Russian propaganda. I’m not saying you’re on their side but if you parrot them without putting it into perspective, you’re doing their bidding.
I’d never paint Russia as the rational side - which is why the distinction between Russia and the Soviet Union AND the distinction between individuals is important, imho.
Yes, nuclear warfare is definitely the right path forward for the world…
Ooooh right, nUcLeAr WaRfArE! Forgot about that. Yeah, we should probably just let them completely destroy Ukraine, and after they’re done, feed em whichever countries they want until they’ve had their fill.
Anything to keep Putin placated!
Mutually assured destruction? Wats that?
Wats that?
That’s the reason we need to not give Putin a free pass to commit whatever evil he wants. He’ll saber rattle all day long, but he knows the second he calls that order that he’s signing his own death sentence. He cares about himself above all else, so that shit ain’t gonna happen regardless of how loudly they hint about it.
Appeasement worked so well for the world in the past…right.
I feel like at this point he’s trying to antagonize europe into launching a counterpropoganda campaign against Russia’s troll farming
At this point I wish they would, frankly. Especially since the US is clearly going to do nothing to hold Trump, Putin and all of their stooges accountable for anything.
That’s not his style. He’s only speaking to his people. Nothing about what he says correlates to reality. He doesn’t want to antagonize Russia at all. He, like cucker are beholden to pushing Putin’s propaganda. We are still suffering from Russian psyops.
He’s still the best US president candidate Russia has
The best money can buy
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If you vote for this man, you are a garbage person.
There’s also a 1:1 probability that you’re a sociopath, mentally unstable, brainwashed, legitimately stupid, or willfully ignorant.
Why not all 5?
Or just a plain hateful sadist.
No. You’re underestimating the legitimate ignorance of the electorate. Give this comment a read.
Great post 👍 Thanks for sharing.
Yup my local magat has no idea that any trials happened for the Jan 6 insurrectionists. He thinks Biden personally sent them to jail without trial.
When I showed him the stats for guilty pleas and convictions he changed the subject to Hunter’s problems.
Thats a great read, and echoes what ive been seeing at my own workplace. Those who even remotely follow news (outside of Faux News) are all voting biden. Those who dont, hear that bidens old, that hes out of touch, and want trump to win out of spite for how much they hate the political climate.
That whole, “vote for trump or abstain to stick it to the man” thing is trending like nothing else. Even here on Lemmy, but esp on reddit.
TALK TO THE PPL IN UR LIFE, NOW!
And coincidentally that position favors russia. Somehow. It’s a mystery.
https://midwest.social/comment/7013586
Just follow this comment chain.
And im banned from the sub for this. Fucking terrifying shit if ur at all into democracy or oopsed to fascism.
Please spread word of this happening. On reddit this shit is far far more widespread. There, leftist subs that once prided themselves on never banning anyone will happily ban anyone who says that not voting for biden is playing right into fascist hands, even if said comment generates positive feedback!
Not to mention a wannabe Russian asset
Ew. Look at those horrific tiny claws.
That’s arguably treason.
It’s just sparkling conservatism
Only if it comes from the treasonous region of Russia.
He’s running under the banner of the people who did this:
So yeah.
The man organized an insurrection and it was televised. He won’t be held accountable for this either.
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You must be referring to the peaceful tour in which people were bludgeoned, trespassed, and shot in an attempt to stop the certification of a democratic election. Please don’t exaggerate!! (:
Luckily for him, he’s had good luck with treason so far.
Feeding his base. Republicans only platform is to trigger libs. They’re like monkeys throwing shit at their fellow citizens.
If that dick sucker gets back in we are closing our borders so fucking fast. Also Canada is part of the British commonwealth so we know what side the UK will be on if this idiot tries anything.
Unfortunately closing our borders doesn’t mean anything when we share the longest undefended border in the world.
There are a literal shit ton of places to just walk across (or 4x4) without anyone knowing … and that sucks in this context. :/
… and even just economically, AFAIK we have treaties we would have difficulty getting out of; such as to provide them with water. We ship a lot of our raw resources (beef, lumber) down to them only to buy back finished goods, stuff like that. Canada will be in a real jam if we feel a need to distance ourselves properly from the USA.
AFAIK we have treaties we would have difficulty getting out of;
Trump had no problem breaking treaties on a whim the last time.
I don’t imagine he wouldn’t continue doing that if the idea randomly popped into his head (or was placed there).
Indeed, and we might need to be ready to play some hardball ‘tit for tat’ if it comes to it. However we’ve always been ‘the mouse’ to their ‘elephant’ so that might not be feasible.
Sometimes I like to imagine that trump is actually an elaborate honey pot, and any day now all of his supporters are going to be rounded up for being treasonous idiots too dangerous to leave unattended. But no, people really are that awful.
The guy’s fool and a security threat. He should be in a cell, not on television.
He and his co-conspirators are what gitmo was built for and where they belong. Traitor’s and terrorists the lot of them.
Trump should be in prison but Gitmo should not exist. Let’s not use Trump as an excuse to justify that atrocity.
I’m not going to say your wrong because your not but if we are going to continue to use it (we likely are), threat’s to our republic such as insurrectionists, a place like gitmo is surely where they should be.
That’s the longest run on sentence I’ve written in a while.
Trump is cool with enhanced interrogations. I say we let his fantasy of torturing traitors play out, and we find out what documents he stole, and what he really thinks about the 2020 election. It’s really a win-win.
I’m not entirely convinced that Trump isn’t set up and supported by the Bush family so W didn’t go down in history as the worst modern president ever.
Did you know that Russia has weapons of mass destruction?
Trump wouldn’t say that about Russia.
He would say that about Ukraine.
Yeah I think I have heard a thing or two about something called the chilly war or something like that. Sounds delicious at first but then you read up on it and it was a lot of dick wagging but with nukes instead of dicks.
My only hope with a second Trump term is that when he inevitably drags the US out of NATO, the other member states invest more heavily into their military budgets, rally to support each other and make it a true defensive pact.
NATO would definitely feel the hit of losing US support, but I don’t think this will tip the scales in Ukraine. If the other states chip in, I think they’ll hold out.
It’s more hilarious that the Republican Party have managed to dupe their own stereotypically patriotic supporters into allowing them to sell out to Russia. Aren’t they forgetting the decades of anti-Commie propaganda being fed to them?
Ideally NATO would fall apart and cap the member states’ potential to commit their imperialism in the middle east.
And modern capitalist Russia tries its best to put out anti-communist propaganda for its population too btw. The current governments of the US and Russia aren’t too different in that sense; the difference is that Russians have lived under Socialism and experienced the massively decreased quality of life after the country turned capitalist so the propaganda doesn’t quite work (with rising support for the USSR in recent years even)
The reason Trump wants to ally with Russia is likely to sabotage China, the same way they sabotaged the USSR and contributed to its illegal dissolution by allying with China against them in the Cold War.
Russia isn’t communist anymore. They are a white ethno state with strong laws against the gays.
I remember thinking Romney was an idiot for talking about how much of a threat Russia is.
Shows what I know.
Russia isn’t communist anymore.
Strictly speaking, was it ever really communist? Did any Marxist-Leninist state even come close to a communist society? Where’s all those Lemmy people who read Marx when you need them?
They are a white ethno state with strong laws against the gays.
Kinda always have been.
I might ‘encourage’ his staff to drown him in his gold toilet.
Give them free Taco Bell first.
I’m over the insane sewage that spews from his mouth and not clicking on any trump articles (ragebait) … fuck the news they are salivating at the money if he is president again.
So if anyone is feeling generous I’m a little OLL could you explain what these like dumbass ok hands are??? Is he about to do the batman hand mask?
hell yeah don’t read the article that’ll show them for sure
Love when nut sack has a good joke
This is really laughable. Trump is bitching about not paying bills? Trump? They guy who’s lawyers need to sue him to force him to pay his bills? The guy who robbed money from his charities for himself? That dude?
He means that Europe got complacent with Russia, which it did, but he’s not some genius for seeing that. It was a known issue and let’s say that Europe has learned it’s lesson. He just was typically dumpass trump and threatened his allies over small issues, instead of using diplomacy.
Now saying that he’ll encourage Putin to attack Europe (good luck with that one, btw) is again stabbing his allies. He doesn’t understand that America is worth shit without those allies, because of course he doesn’t because he’s trump. Be proud of being dumb.
And conservatives all over the world still want to install Trump as POTUS, let alone the American ones.
