Apologies. This might not be the perfect community for the post.
This is a good way to distinguish the terms. I wonder if there is a good colour scheme to also indicate the nation states as district from the landmasses
FYI “British Islands” isn’t a specific name whereas all the others are
I’m not sure I follow. It looks as specific in the diagram as all the other names?
It’s not an actual term that is used though. “Great Britain” and “Ireland” are the names of the islands, “the United Kingdom” and “(the Republic of) Ireland” are the names of the sovereign states, “the British Isles” is (one) name for all the bits of land. “British Islands” is not an official term or one that anyone uses.
The Scots wouldn’t agree with this. I’ve spent a lot of time there.
The Shetlands, Orkneys, Harris and the rest of the Hebrides aren’t even mentioned. Haha
The North shall rise again
Those are groups of northern islands, so they were excluded. Unlike Northern Ireland, which isn’t an island so it was included.
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And Anglesey in Wales, and Wight in England, etc. Honestly I’m not a fan of this diagram.
Well, Scots would often say “we’re not British but we are Scottish” since British usually means “from the UK” but I don’t think any of them would deny that most of Scotland is in Great Britain.
Ireland wtf?
Huh, is that the old Jersey?
A quiet little tax haven full of polite stuffy old people. I’m thinking of visiting the new one, I assume it’s much the same?
Not at all.
They prefer the term “Jersey Classic”
Ye Olde Jersey
Yup. Though original is probably the better description.
The new jersey is extra crispy
The OJ
and the Original Guernsey (not to be confused with the new one)
The words that ultimately gave us “Britain” have been in use for about 2,000 years, give or take a century or two. Politically and culturally a tremendous lot has happened in the meantime. Which is probably why we’re left with this almost indecipherable mine field.
I just stay ‘fuck it’ and call them all Celtoi.
That’s a nice word. I like to use Pritani but might mix it up a bit from now on.
And it doesn’t even include Bretagne.
Tell me about it. Immigrants? From Britain? Taking over (culturally) a foreign land. You couldn’t make it up. I once witnessed some drunk Bretons speaking to some drunk Welsh in their respective languages… and “kind of” understanding each other.
The state Irland shouldn’t be republic of Irland ?
No, the state is called Ireland as defined in its constitution.
Thanks for the information.
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Britannia and Hibernia. Brittano-Hibernian Islands? Atlantic archipelago seems vague as an outsider from neither Britain or Ireland.
Atlantic Archipelago
this is totally the Bahamas. Or Palm Beach condos.
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I just call em all cunts, except for the irish those cunts are cool.
As a Englishman, I can’t have you talking down on the Scots. They’re the only ones left which are still decent
So you’re saying they’re decent cunts?
Lol irish shit cunts
No one outside of the UK includes Ireland in the British Isles.
I would… (Australian)
Speaking of! Shouldn’t Australia be in that chart too? And I’d like to see the “commonwealth” in the diagram too. It’s all good complicated!
I’m English and I don’t either. It’s a pretty obvious hangover of British imperial pretensions.
Yeh, I don’t think I would either. It does feel disrepectful
“British and Irish Isles” is the most common descriptor for the whole archipelago I see, and it seems a fair one even if it’s a bit long. It’d be nice if we could all agree on something catchier but that seems unlikely, all things considered
Gaelic Isles
Celtic would be better. Gaelic literally means coming from the Gaels, aka the Irish. Welsh and Cornish are Brythonic language speakers, not Goidelic/Gaelic, but they are all Celtic languages. The Angles, Saxons, Frisians and Jutes invaded Celtic Britain starting in the 400s.
If we removed Brits from the world map, we could call it just Ireland
Cool!
I wonder… how do/does Shetland islands?/ Archipelago? fit into this?
They’re just part of Scotland. Although the nearby Orkney Islands (also part of Scotland) have recently flirted with leaving the UK and becoming part of Norway.
Why Orkney and not Shetland (or does Shetland want to leave too)? I would’ve figured it’d be the one physically further away from Britain that would feel less affiliation.
Yeah, I know what you mean, it is a bit odd. I’m not sure why Orkney and not Shetland. Doubt it’ll ever happen tbh!
They were mainly floating the idea in a bid to get more funding allocated from the Scottish government
Ah ok :-)
The term British Isles is, of course, disputed by the Irish.
How about we collective reestablish the name “Albion”, then?
Treacherous Albion
I prefer Perfidious Albion
I’m an idiot
They had a signpost in the Atlantic saying “Irish Isles” for weeks before we noticed.
Now if someone can tell me what exactly “Britain” is? People say it all the time, like this is the largest statue of a vulva in Britain. Just shorthand for Great Britain, or is it something else?
Just that - shorthand for Great Britain. Easier to use when you don’t think it’s so great, like if you live in the Republic of Ireland!
Republic of Ireland
Which on the diagram is coterminous with “Ireland (state)”?
Exactly - that’s it’s proper name and how it’s distinguished from Northern Ireland since they share the land mass of Ireland
You did a great job on this though, OP. It’s difficult to explain to non-nationals with no idea of the history, so this is very helpful
It’s like saying America to mean the United States. Technically America includes Canada and excludes Hawaii. But when people say America they actually mean US + Alaska and Hawaii but not Canada.
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The Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland should pull an epic gamer move and simplify this chart.
That might cause some Troubles.
That would leave England quite IRAte
what about canada and australia?
For a moment, I thought, this comment was in response to the Europe map someone else posted. There the answer would have been easy, of course: Eurovision. 🙃
I did not wake up this morning expecting to read someone claiming that Canada is an island.
But Hans Island is an island, and it’s ours! 🇩🇰
show the entire commonwealth, and every place the UK has ever colonized?
well sorry idk the difference between commomweath and the map, isn’t that the point?
pretty much! The commonwealth is what the British empire became, most former British colonies are members, and King Charles is its head, though most member states are republics now, and don’t have him as their king. It’s a mostly-cerrmonial political group that occasionally does things like promote trade or diplomacy
Is India part of the commonwealth?
Yup, every British colony as of 1945 joined the commonwealth except Myanmar, and one called Aden that is now part of Yemen
TIL! Thank you dear sir!
