I was thinking of Leary’s tune in, drop out kinda thing and Keasy was a big part of that movement.

And the downvoting is probably because they want to belive this is a big thing in China because it would go towards the view they want to be true, but the reality is cccp is hugely popular and the obsessive work ethic is still a driving force.

I’m guessing because it’s a big carrot with equally dismal prospects and even when it’s achieved it’s not really so glamorous as advertised.

Sigma grind set or virgin for life, no in between

I’m not connecting it to sex I’m using them as examples of groups that if this was a Chinese forum we might be reading about and thinking they’re significant but were we to then ask a random American most wouldn’t have even heard of them and those that have would almost universally tell you are meaningless and not taken seriously.

When using one thing as an example of a certain facet of something it’s generally understood that the other aspects aren’t important - the sun is round like a cricket ball doesn’t imply it’s the same size or that it’s used for sport.

I mean, that was almost a national sport over there, before the CPC.

I don’t think anyone think of China as a communist/socialist country for a very long time. Maybe except older generations and tankies.

Ironically, I have met more tankies in six month on lemmy than my 18 years growing up in China. It is truly a wild culture shock that I didn’t expect. LOL.

They already have two.

China is already essentially an authoritarian dictatorship. There’s no big leap to fascism for them, they just need to fetishize the military and act more nationalistic than they already do. They’re already prejudicial, blaming minorities within for all sorts of problems, attempting to control speech and thought, etc.

Yes blame the “youth” when the average age of our politicians is 65. Makes perfect sense.

One of the things I learned reading Three Body Problem is that their police problems mirror the US a lot more than either country might realize. One of the characters is a cop who knows he’s supposed to act a certain way in investigations, but doesn’t give a shit. In other words, there’s an expectation that their police respect certain civil liberties, but they often don’t. Which is basically what happens in the US.

That book was originally published in 2008, though, and since then, Xi Jinping has been pushing things back to being more explicitly authoritarian. Oh, and the author has made some statements in support of that, so that’s great.

Love how y’all hate anti lockdown protesters in USA but cheer them on in China.

Schroedinger’s Communist:

The country is ruled by wealthy elite, but still communist. The government is incompetent, but also all powerful.

It’s a fascist dictorship, and only as powerful as it’s enforcers are loyal.

If things get bad, it can collapse overnight.

F off. They own half my street here and most landlords are in their 20s.

Thank you for the commentary. I figured there was some cultural and lingual baggage that was the difference.

Would “just throw the whole thing away” (as in throw it into the trash) be a more fitting translation for the sentiment than “let it rot” then?

Hey I just wanted to say thank you for the breakdown. The intricacies of translation are interesting.

The article title sounded like they were letting the system rot, but if they’re laying flat then the metaphor is that the people are laying and rotting? Or did I misunderstand

I don’t need to read shit from wall street journal

Yep. There’s a lot of Chinese punk, post-punk, goth, New Wave etc etc etc. sadly, outside of China you don’t hear much about it because of the old firewall and of course language barriers.

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That would be awesome

Lol! This piss-take xD

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Got any good examples of this?

I do know that between 1950 and 2000 poverty and starvation dropped like a stone. I havent been watching closely enough to tell for the past couple decades. I don’t mean to sound cynical, but it can be hard to tell what’s slavery and what’s improvement of living standards through the media and on such short timescales

I know theyre installing a ton of solar/wind. Superbundance could happen there and that could be great. I got my fingers crossed.

How’s agriculture doing?

I think they’re very well positioned with electric cars and are going to take marketshare from everyone else in that industry.

I hope they quit killing the sea and bossing around their neighbors

Their effots in Africa are probably going to benefit them greatly. I hope they arent doing to Africa whatthre US did with South America in early/mid 20th century… with the saddling of unpayable debts, extracting resources and installing viscious dictators

I read recently OPECy folks are openly conspiring to flood Africas market with cheap and shitty fossil fuel power plants and cars to expand the oil market. It’d be rad someone flooded it with cheaper and better electric cars/heatpumps and renewable power. I wish the US/Europe would

Surely this is sarcasm.

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?

Propaganda. Every city has one or two neighborhoods (usually full of working class minorities) where police dump the homeless and addicts from everywhere else. Each of those areas has one or two particularly bad streets that look like shit and make for great fear mongering.

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