You can’t have the lifestyle media push as success and at the same have kids, it’s not compatible to the 99% of people’s wealth.
I make ~$200K a year. As a father of 5, I wish I had not had a single one. I love them, but the stress of taking care of them coupled with the future of the planet makes me regret life choices.
I find it interesting that you cite the stress of raising them as a factor in your regret. Could you not tell that was going to be an issue around the time number three came around? That’s not intended to be accusatory btw. I’m genuinely curious.
He’s a Java developer
Made a ChildFactory, may as well use it.
Maybe they meant it like “there is now stress for helping pay for college at a higher cost than when they were born.” Or being stressed knowing if the family lives in a HCOL area (typically where those salaries are offered), they might not be able to live there as well with the current trends in housing costs.
TLDR: things have changed for the worst for newer generations, parents can see it.
God, I wish I was smart enough to lie this well. No. I like sex, and hate condoms. I’m the dum.
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I do too, which is why I was on the table getting a vasectomy before the vernix was dry on our one and only kid lol
Kids are inherently stressful. They’re like little abusive people who you can’t legally defend yourself against.
You incorrectly assume I’m intelligent.
Haha fair enough
Ok not a Java dev but this would explain the excess children (lol)
Oh hell yeah I’ll never pass up an opportunity to shit on a language i don’t use. It’s the programmer way!
Signed, a PHP developer. <3
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He probably doesn’t know what contraception is.
Not OP, but I’ve found that the older they get, the harder it gets. Schedules are all over the place, and they start advocating for things they want to do that don’t fit neatly into the family calendar (vs when you were able to choose everything for them).
Expectations for parents have also skyrocketed. Your “best” now is far different than what the 1990s parents were expected to deliver. And, of course, you love them and want to provide them everything they need, so you bend over backwards to make it happen. That’s what society demands, too.
I don’t have as many kids as OP, and I can’t fucking imagine wrangling five in the current world…😳
I’m sorry man, I assume you have a bit of family support in this regard?
“Why aren’t the poors having more workers??” - the same people continually reducing the status and security of the working class
If given the option or the opportunity … the wealthy wouldn’t mind the reintroduction of slavery and outright ownership of people
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With the insane costs of raising kids nowadays, might as well DINK FTW!
Crushing economics aside, a lot of us watched Doug and now live in a future where we’ve access to all the gadgets that Mr Dink did.
“choosing”
“Very expensive.”
“When we advise clients about having children, we honestly don’t even give them the full real details and the real numbers,” said Shannon McLay, founder of The Financial Gym. “It’s one of those things if you see the math of it all, it might make you decide to not have children.”
what a whole generation of pulling the ladder up behind you will do to a society. Party of family values doing everything they possibly can to destroy familes.
In other words, “we trick our clients who paid us for financial advice into having children they can’t afford”.
Yeah, I hope there’s some more context. That quote makes it sound pretty bad.
people won’t pay to hear ‘don’t have kids’
so they skip that part
Holy shit, what an incredibly unethical thing to do. “We’re lying to the people who come to us for advice because if we told the truth they might make a decision we don’t like.”
What could rasing a child cost? 10$?
That’s half a star war!
No, it’s more like 25,000 bananas.
Quick math suggests that it takes about 2190 bananas to raise a child, with an average of 1 banana every 3 days. This cost does not incluce therapy sessions for the parents though, so is not a complete breakdown of the cost of raising a child.
That’s me and my spouse. We love it.
Some people cant grasp that not having children because you dont want them is an option. I got a vasectomy at 23, single, no kids, because fuck em.
My sister in law would like to be made infertile as well, unfortunately no doctor will do it for her because her hypothetical husband might want children from her one day. Being female in America and not wanting kids is heavily stigmatized, in her case she just doesn’t like them
Hospitals don’t do background checks for a surgery. Just lie to your doc. “My husband of 15 years and I have three already - they’re great but we’re definitely done! Here look at these pictures of… oh gosh darnit, I think I left my phone at home. Anyway, let’s talk about this surgery…”
If it feels unethical, so is our backwards healthcare system. Stupid problems call for stupid solutions.
Username…checks out?
I’m a surgical tech, which is rock-bottom of the medical food chain, but I take my role seriously enough that it makes my blood fucking boil when people are denied care over bigoted or superstitious nonsense.
If we’re going to hit our patients with that BS, why would we expect our patients to have any respect for the system that’s giving them the finger instead of providing care?
If lying and cheating is what it takes to trick the system into working for a moment, then lie and cheat.
And more power to you. I just thought it was a funny coincidence that you’re writing this with a username I could interpret as “a way not to have children”. Didn’t mean to take away from what you wrote at all. Sorry if it sounded that way.
Oh, not at all! I was affirming your comment. When I started on the fediverse I gravitated to the medical communities cuz that was the most familiar content, so I themed the username there as well.
Advocating for a good ol snip snip procedure tracks with that, so 100% on it checking out.
Any ire in my previous comment was directed at the broken-ass system I work for, not your post!
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Too expensive and we like sleep and travel and time for our hobbies.
Plus no vaginas/anus’s being ripped open and no shitting in front of a bunch of strangers.
But Bezos and Musk both want 1 Trillion humans!
Musk pretty much only wants the white humans. Not sure about Bezos.
Well yeah how else is there going to be more
wage slavesMozarts?
I very much enjoy the lifestyle that comes with it. It’s less stress overall. And it’s not exactly a fun place (current state of the world) for me to want to bring a mini me into.
Honestly at this point there are only a handful of headlines that cover about 90% of news stories:
-Young people ‘choose’ lifestyle choice that was forced upon them by external conditions.
-Young people are ‘killing industry’ that they are not paid enough to even dream of participating in.
-Rich person/people found guilty of or admitted to enormous crime will go unpunished.
-Someones totally unqualified opinion on a subject that we’re reporting as news because they’re rich.
-World ending, shareholders rejoice.this might be the greatest comment on Lemmy
Seriously, someone save this and post it on X and Reddit.
Disaster capitalism!!! 🥳
Rich people doing stupid things with money because they aren’t being taxed like they should so that the economy actually can survive.
FDR taxes the shit out of rich people so they had to re-invest the money into their companies or lose it to the government. That built a strong, industrialized America with good paying jobs. Ronald Reagan reversed everything and we’ve been in decline ever since. Still a huge number of poor people continue to vote Republican, against their country, and their own interests.
